End of the rotation?

[HethGnome]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The larger guilds (BDA, Taken, Divinity) were unhappy the smaller guilds were getting the choicest loot that their members deserved.

If you were ever on the FAP forums for any amount of time you'd know that this was Taken & Divinity's constant proposal over the last year. BDA finally joined the crew after Sirken took away the threat of being moved to C and showed them how they can have their cake and eat it to (moving back easily).

So yes, pixel lust now rules the 3 largest guilds in Class R, and they wanted to bully the smaller guilds into accepting 2nd class status. They wanted their protected Class R garden, with as many pixels as possible. I'm glad the smaller guilds said no and exposed the hypocrisy of Chest and Drakakade (to be fair Taken never made any nobility or fairness claims).

I find it amusing that these guys want to be the big fish in the small pond and try to rig it so there is the most pixels for themselves without competition (or else we'll just take it all right? That was this ultimatum - Soviet Russia style). Think you'll be surprised by the 7 guilds who said no, can't wait to see the tears.

In the meantime, I'm waiting for the PR machines to try to explain away their pixel lust and shit sandwich.

You want loot from mobs you can't kill, what is that if not greed?

[Blaza]

I still don't understand why guilds team up for some mobs / get assistance from outside guilds...

smaller guilds are teaming up for Gorenaire (hard and not really worth it loot-wise) then having solo slots for easier, more lootastic mobs (often asking for help from another guild, who also has their own slot).

The easiest solution for smaller guilds on this proposal would just be to team up, which already happens.....they just wish to selectively team up for some mobs, this would force them to be a team on all mobs.

Honestly I have hated the rotation since day 1...made everyone lazy.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The larger guilds (BDA, Taken, Divinity) were unhappy the smaller guilds were getting the choicest loot that their members deserved.

If you were ever on the FAP forums for any amount of time you'd know that this was Taken & Divinity's constant proposal over the last year. BDA finally joined the crew after Sirken took away the threat of being moved to C and showed them how they can have their cake and eat it to (moving back easily).

So yes, pixel lust now rules the 3 largest guilds in Class R, and they wanted to bully the smaller guilds into accepting 2nd class status. They wanted their protected Class R garden, with as many pixels as possible. I'm glad the smaller guilds said no and exposed the hypocrisy of Chest and Drakakade (to be fair Taken never made any nobility or fairness claims).

I find it amusing that these guys want to be the big fish in the small pond and try to rig it so there is the most pixels for themselves without competition (or else we'll just take it all right? That was this ultimatum - Soviet Russia style). Think you'll be surprised by the 7 guilds who said no, can't wait to see the tears.

In the meantime, I'm waiting for the PR machines to try to explain away their pixel lust and shit sandwich.

Serious miscasting of shit going on in that post. How about the "pixel lust" of small guilds riding the coattails of larger guilds so that they can distribute pixels from easier & more desirable targets amongst a smaller pool than if they were in a guild capable of actually doing all the content?

You want the loots? Man up and form a large enough force to actually kill the tough mobs and (here's the key part[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] then share the "loot pinata" pixels amongst all of the players required to actually earn your place at the table.

The greed and the abuse here are coming 99% from the smaller guilds crying because they want guaranteed pixels at the expense of the players in the larger guilds.

[wycca]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious miscasting of shit going on in that post. How about the "pixel lust" of small guilds riding the coattails of larger guilds so that they can distribute pixels from easier & more desirable targets amongst a smaller pool than if they were in a guild capable of actually doing all the content?

You want the loots? Man up and form a large enough force to actually kill the tough mobs and (here's the key part[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] then share the "loot pinata" pixels amongst all of the players required to actually earn your place at the table.

The greed and the abuse here are coming 99% from the smaller guilds crying because they want guaranteed pixels at the expense of the players in the larger guilds.

So this is what the PR machine is going to say?

Let's be 100% clear here. You make the gatekeeper to the juiciest tier the 2nd hardest mob in the game, require 24hr kills of it within 1hr, and in order to get in, you have to kill a FFA version of it - not a class R version.

Really?

No, you created a protected pixel wall designed to keep the small guilds from killing VS (which can be done with 2 groups), Inny (3 groups), etc etc.

This isn't some - "they're abusing the system" proposal (and they weren't, they signed up jointly for mobs they couldn't solo kill, alliances were for an 8hr period overnight), it's 100% about protecting the best pixels in the game from competition and trying to secure them for BDA/Taken/Divinity without having to share.

Don't spew some noble bullshit when it's quite clear that this was some Machivaellian proposal designed to benefit BDA/Taken/Divinity and protect their pixel welfare.

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So this is what the PR machine is going to say?

Let's be 100% clear here. You make the gatekeeper to the juiciest tier the 2nd hardest mob in the game, require 24hr kills of it within 1hr, and in order to get in, you have to kill a FFA version of it - not a class R version.

Really?

No, you created a protected pixel wall designed to keep the small guilds from killing VS (which can be done with 2 groups), Inny (3 groups), etc etc.

This isn't some - "they're abusing the system" proposal (and they weren't, they signed up jointly for mobs they couldn't solo kill, alliances were for an 8hr period overnight), it's 100% about protecting the best pixels in the game from competition and trying to secure them for BDA/Taken/Divinity without having to share.

Don't spew some noble bullshit when it's quite clear that this was some Machivaellian proposal designed to benefit BDA/Taken/Divinity and protect their pixel welfare.

Its an R Gorenaire.

[wycca]

Originally Posted by Blaza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its an R Gorenaire.

OMG, this makes it so much more acceptable! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In order to kill a 2-groupable mob, you still have to kill Gore. Nobody with half a brain would think this isn't about pixels with that rule.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you created a protected pixel wall designed to keep the small guilds from killing VS (which can be done with 2 groups), Inny (3 groups), etc etc.

And those tiers are just so so so bad. Like if we are honest with ourselves, difficulty goes something like this:

Tier 1: Maestro -> Draco -> Faydedar ->
Tier 3: VS -> Innoruuk -> CT ->
Tier 4: Severilous -> Trakanon -> Talendor -> Gorenaire

Hey, that looks kinda reasonable actually.

BDA also had the option of just saying "hey, we don't like alliances. If you can't sign up solo, you can't sign up for Gorenaire." No one would have cared about missing Gorenaire's shitty loot table every 3 months. Their whole goal was to write a proposal so ridiculous that we would reject it, and then they could try and convince their members everyone was against them.

[skipdog]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious miscasting of shit going on in that post. How about the "pixel lust" of small guilds riding the coattails of larger guilds so that they can distribute pixels from easier & more desirable targets amongst a smaller pool than if they were in a guild capable of actually doing all the content?

You want the loots? Man up and form a large enough force to actually kill the tough mobs and (here's the key part[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] then share the "loot pinata" pixels amongst all of the players required to actually earn your place at the table.

The greed and the abuse here are coming 99% from the smaller guilds crying because they want guaranteed pixels at the expense of the players in the larger guilds.

ROFL yeah those 3 shared kills/month that some smaller guilds teamed up for really must've stung you guys bad!!! Seriously, it's so little loot compared to the big picture, its basically inconsequential. Basically you guys are crying because a few mobs/month, some smaller guilds killed a mob instead of wiping for 4 hours with too few numbers. Who cares???

The 'pixel lust' of smaller guilds?? It's hilarious what you guys believe.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ROFL yeah those 3 shared kills/month that some smaller guilds teamed up for really must've stung you guys bad!!! Seriously, it's so little loot compared to the big picture, its basically inconsequential. Basically you guys are crying because a few mobs/month, some smaller guilds killed a mob instead of wiping for 4 hours with too few numbers. Who cares???

The 'pixel lust' of smaller guilds?? It's hilarious what you guys believe.

:shrug: Just calling people out on their bullshit when the spirit moves me. The TMO trolls weighing in on this are especially lulzy, such anger, such anguish, such unhappiness, "OMGOMG my alt in <RotationExploiterAltGuild73> might not get his pixel ration this month, whatever shall I do?".

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ROFL yeah those 3 shared kills/month that some smaller guilds teamed up for really must've stung you guys bad!!! Seriously, it's so little loot compared to the big picture, its basically inconsequential. Basically you guys are crying because a few mobs/month, some smaller guilds killed a mob instead of wiping for 4 hours with too few numbers. Who cares???

The 'pixel lust' of smaller guilds?? It's hilarious what you guys believe.

If you can't solo kill the mob, why are you in the rotation?