Feminism today

[JurisDictum]

Feminism is a catch all phrase that really isn't as focused as people (especially self-identified feminists) claim it is. I hear: "All feminism means is equal rights for women," repeated a lot. That's just utter horseshit. That's what some feminists think it means, others think it means that we need to "feminize" society. Whenever I hear some politician assuring everyone that "All feminism means is equal rights for women," it's always some 50+ woman who hasn't been to college since the 70s. Women in modern campuses are talking about how live in a "rape culture," as if it's an undisputed fact of natural science. It's also a given that the pay gap is due to discrimination, when it's been statistically proven otherwise. In fact, single women that never have kids make MORE money then single men who never have kids. The pay gap is due almost completely to individual women's decisions back up by societal norms (that they buy into).
Feminists can't agree on whether they want to be treated differently by men, or they wanted to be treated the same only in a professional setting, or they think men should act differently in general. They are also in denial about men hating. how could women hating be a wide-spread thing but men-hating near non-existent? I'm not saying all feminists hate men, but you can bet the ones that do are all feminists. My guess is the number of women in feminist movements that are outright bigoted of men is about 20%.
Anyone who spends time around feminist boards or real-life groups will notice the following hypocrisies:

Men should never pretend they understand what its like for women, but women know exactly what it's like for men.

For the most part, innocent until proven guilty. Unless its a rape trail. Then he did it, does not deserve due process, and your a rape apologist if you suggest otherwise.

If a man continues to get into abusive relationships and stays with those partners, he has issues in needs help. If a woman does the same thing, her partner has issues and there's nothing wrong with her and it could happen to anyone.

A relationship where the man is dominate is problematic and repressive. Unless he's gay of course.

[Jimjam]

I thought rape culture was a seed/oil based yogurt alternative for vegans. I didn't realise I was sexually assaulting females simply by existing until I came to p99!

[Formshifter]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought rape culture was a seed/oil based yogurt alternative for vegans. I didn't realise I was sexually assaulting females simply by existing until I came to p99!

Jesus Christ Mr Bundy, quit raping everyone with your rape penis words.

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Feminism is a catch all phrase that really isn't as focused as people (especially self-identified feminists) claim it is. I hear: "All feminism means is equal rights for women," repeated a lot. That's just utter horseshit. That's what some feminists think it means, others think it means that we need to "feminize" society. Whenever I hear some politician assuring everyone that "All feminism means is equal rights for women," it's always some 50+ woman who hasn't been to college since the 70s. Women in modern campuses are talking about how live in a "rape culture," as if it's an undisputed fact of natural science. It's also a given that the pay gap is due to discrimination, when it's been statistically proven otherwise. In fact, single women that never have kids make MORE money then single men who never have kids. The pay gap is due almost completely to individual women's decisions back up by societal norms (that they buy into).
Feminists can't agree on whether they want to be treated differently by men, or they wanted to be treated the same only in a professional setting, or they think men should act differently in general. They are also in denial about men hating. how could women hating be a wide-spread thing but men-hating near non-existent? I'm not saying all feminists hate men, but you can bet the ones that do are all feminists. My guess is the number of women in feminist movements that are outright bigoted of men is about 20%.
Anyone who spends time around feminist boards or real-life groups will notice the following hypocrisies:

Men should never pretend they understand what its like for women, but women know exactly what it's like for men.

For the most part, innocent until proven guilty. Unless its a rape trail. Then he did it, does not deserve due process, and your a rape apologist if you suggest otherwise.

If a man continues to get into abusive relationships and stays with those partners, he has issues in needs help. If a woman does the same thing, her partner has issues and there's nothing wrong with her and it could happen to anyone.

A relationship where the man is dominate is problematic and repressive. Unless he's gay of course.

I agree with much of what you're saying here. I'm a woman and I am disgusted by most so-called feminists. I really am. Why do people gotta take a perfectly good social movement that has vastly improved womens' opportunities to make better lives for themselves for over a century -- getting the right to vote, access to education, family planning, etc -- only to hijack it and turn it into a, oh I don't know... a fucking parody? A joke? I don't even know what to call it anymore. I bet the OG feminists are rolling over in their graves, though...

Some of these women nowadays are just flat-out bat-shit crazy, making up rape stories and messing with people's lives (Lena Denham and her weird book, the UVA/Rolling Stone gang-rape bullshit -- just to name a couple). They complain about the "war on women" as they declare war against all things masculine, except for themselves of course. It's acceptable to be manly but only if you have a vagina, apparently. These types of feminists are really screwing it up for the rest of us. I mean WTF are they thinking about when they bring attention to retarded bullshit like "man-spreading"? Lol.

"Omg men take up so much room on subways, the way they sit with their legs open! Let's make this a thing and call it man-spreading."

Genius idea, bitches... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] What a joke.

[Sidelle]

P.S. Sorry Katrik. I know you're sick of the feminist stuff. I was bored & couldn't sleep. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. I mean WTF are they thinking about when they bring attention to retarded bullshit like "man-spreading"? Lol.

"Omg men take up so much room on subways, the way they sit with their legs open! Let's make this a thing and call it man-spreading."

Genius idea, bitches... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] What a joke.

To be honest, i'm a man and i noticed it's always men who do that, and i think it lacks class.

But i also noticed a lot of women put their bags or purses on seats next to them, that they don't occupy, even on crowded buses. #PurseSpreading!!!1

[Formshifter]

Its because the war is won but there still in fight mode. They've run out of legitimate issues to address, so now there trying to fabricate petty Shit to be outraged by to legitimize themselves.

[Formshifter]

Theyre*

God damn autocorrect.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by Formshifter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its because the war is won but there still in fight mode. They've run out of legitimate issues to address, so now there trying to fabricate petty Shit to be outraged by to legitimize themselves.

I think that to some extent, it's a valid point considering the amount of money being spent on women's issues.

Declaring that equality is achieved would translate into key feminist figures and entire organizations to lose their jobs and funding.

Kind of like scaring people with threats to national security to boost defense spending, or keep saying that marijuana is a dangerous drug to keep law enforcement budgets high.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Formshifter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its because the war is won

So men and women get paid the same now? They can both participate in all branches of the military? Both get equal paternity/maternity leave? And they both get raped at the same rate?

C'mon, women may have gotten equality on stuff like the right to vote, but they are far from equal in our society. And that's where some of that newer feminist stuff comes in.

Want women to get raped less? Then they need to be just as dominant as men, which means letting little girls get to play with GI Joes (or making Barbies that kick ass). Or having video game where the protagonist isn't male and isn't just a sex symbol for male players.

Until little girls stop learning to be quiet, submissive, and worry about clothes like Barbie, how can they possibly be equal to the little boys who are taught to be aggressive and take what they want?