1 lootable

[alaiwy0503]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact is that on rallos there waa tons of pvp at all level ranges in all low level zones and high level zones. Here there is not. Item loot gives people who dont want to be lvl 60 and raid something to do that is exciting and worthwhile.

When did you play on RZ? Because in the earlier days, through velious at least, there wasn't as much pvp on RZ as there is on this server. PvP is just a way of life now. There isn't an MMO that has come out with pvp in 10 years. In live PVP was nothing but a niche at best and an afterthought altogether at the least.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by alaiwy0503 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When did you play on RZ? Because in the earlier days, through velious at least, there wasn't as much pvp on RZ as there is on this server. PvP is just a way of life now. There isn't an MMO that has come out with pvp in 10 years. In live PVP was nothing but a niche at best and an afterthought altogether at the least.

Perhaps your memory accurately reflects the experience of higher level players. I played in faydwer beginning close to kunark release when my blue server was down. My neighbor introduced me to the game and told me that the red servers were evil so I never tried them until then.

At the time greater faydark was the trading hub and basically a pvp mad house and you could still be feared off of kelethin. I defended the tree house on a druid and later as a monk at around level 8 for quite a while.

At higher levels there was more cooperation as far as I know but in faydwer pre luclin there was constant pvp available. Luclin came out and made gfay a ghost town and I quit only returning for little stints like all addicts but finally quitting permanently with LDON augments removing item loot.

[Vooradoor]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item loot doesn't work in EQ. I've lived it, it isn't good. End of story.

Well I've lived it too and I couldn't disagree more. In fact, one of the reasons that I enjoyed RZ back in the day more than any MMORPG since then is because it was the only one I've played that had item loot.

If I wanted to play an MMORPG without item loot I could pick almost any of countless games out there today. That's why I came to Project1999, because I miss oldschool EQ pvp and item loot.

If Red99 gets turned in to just another weak game pandering to the pansies, what's the point in even coming back to EQ?

It seems than newer players are trying to turn red99 into WoW. You already have WoW. Isn't that enough?

I hate WoW and how it dumbed down and simplified the idea of MMORPGs. Isn't it enough that WoW already ruined a whole new generation of MMORPGs, now the newer players have to come back and ruin the classics too?

[pharmakos]

the tears would be delicious, though

THE TEARS

[mr.miketastic]

Item loot would be the one thing needed here. Why not? There seems to be a group of players here who want the population low, so why not take that extra step and drive even more players off? Isn't that the goal here? Introduce item loot and then the autists can gloat and masturbate in the mirror to their pvp "greatness"
The ultimate irony I see, is those self-proclaimed gods of pvp ripping on blue for the poopsocking, but they are just as poopsocky and are just as much about the pixels as those they proclaim detestation for.

[Gustoo]

Yeah I played on rallos it was the besy pvp server and had a healthy pop and good community at all level ranges.

I dare you to put a manastonenon your twink. It is possible to kill such twinks and everyone laughs at people suiciding all the time.

The fact is that no matter what a significant population of people are going to want to bum rush to 60 regardless of item loot or not.

The difference is that there are a lot of options at non level 60 when item loot is in place. All levels sub 60 are pointless here but on item loot you kinda get to pick your own pvp bracket.

The economy is better because high end droppables are a liability. New lowbies have nothing to lose because their gear is worthless. Twinks risk their gear.

Only losers are level 60s with lots of high end gear that can now be taken away in pvp.

It just changed the focus a little bit and makes everything a little more serious and gives meaning to a lot of no drop gear that is otherwise garbage.

The only challenge is putting level req on some stuff like epics and the fact that velious level 60s get so much no drop stuff. It isnt too much a problem though because things like cloak of flame remain awesome gear that you still have to gamble to use.

Blue is better if you want everyone to have an easy chance at playing the game. Item loot rallos style just makes pvp all the more interesting and worthwhile....and when it doesn't you can run away just like people do now when they run into a strong bad guy who they feel is not worth fighting.

The risk for true noobs is basically null. The risk for twinks and people with the best gear is high. It balances the game. Right now the people with top lvl 60 droppables just don't like the idea of actually putting that stuff at risk.

[Kergan]

Just about everything you said is dead wrong.

[Andis]

another item loot thread that will go no where

item loot and eq do not mix

no one wants to spend countless hours farming/raiding to recieve a nice item - then have it ganked by a mass pvp fight or solo pvp

this would result in bagging items and who wants to bag instead of using

just doesnt work. never will.

andis out

[Grimjaw]

you don't have to bag shit if you're going to win

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Doors]

I think we both know why you want item loot.