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Old 12-18-2014, 06:25 PM
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barbarian rogues get slam.... and throwing boulders... and better str sta.... picking any other race is absurd, and you get masks for half of them anyways lol

also I haven't toyed with poisons on p99 like I did back on live but casters were one of the many places they came in handy... as for healing... rogues actually mitigate damage pretty decently and with bind you can at least get 50% hp which if you grab buffs before hand is more than you'd ever have without anyways *shrug* agro swapping and stunning you burn stuff fast and hard and without too much recourse in most cases. definitely not a good combo for splitting groups up though. SK/monk are much better for that... or pal I guess but I'd never honestly chose pal over the others for utility, kill speed, or capability as a duo
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:14 AM
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I agree with you as far as selecting a barbarian for PvP. Boulders are neat there. Junk for PvE though. Slam is on backstab timer and is kinda bad. End game, race simply does not matter. There's no barbarian on Blue with better stats than myself or Sckrilla. We're wood elves.

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Old 12-19-2014, 07:16 PM
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The largest drain on efficiency in any group is hp management or healing (outside CE, Torp or CH). There are essentially no group setups out there where this doesn't flesh out.

You add DPS to the group to speed up kills and negate damage by time standing in front of a swinging mob. This reduces the healing load or extends the effect of each heal over X number of mobs.

You add a tank to the group to mitigate damage lowering the amount of healing or damage taken/mob.

You add a cc class to lower or eliminate additional mobs hitting you where you are not hitting them.

Other classes added as accessory for whatever reason will be in there to either reduce the need for healing or bolster your healing abilities.

Simply put, any group approaching their peak efficiency will be one that does not need to heal because you can factor that out of the equation completely. It goes without saying that any skill that can be used do that should be used.

At this point, it comes down to a partner who can use their class in a way that allows the rogue to do the most damage (from behind) while still meditating. There will always be a SMALL need for healing so this eliminates other pure melee, rangers, wizards and Druids because agro kiting requires spell casting and running, paladins because tanking, clerics because tanking, shamans because tanking, mages because no cc, enchanters because no snare and absolutely no healing and leaves shadowknights, Necros and bards. Of those three, only Necros and bards have the ability to cc in any capacity and bards come with a larger shared xp penalty. Fear also exposes the back which is now making use of the rogues best ability, backstab.

Necros are the best partner in MOST scenarios and if you're in the right place (open area, plentiful mobs etc...) will give you the most xp per hour. They have the ability to snare, pet DPS, charm DPS if you're adventurous, small DPS ability themselves and most importantly fear which allows everyone to **eliminate the need to heal. Damage taken on breaks can be reduced by the more recent changes to pet agro which should allow the rogue to back off and pet tank while the necro gets another fear together.


**barring fear and charm breaks.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:40 PM
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Bard can also fear.
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Old 12-19-2014, 07:52 PM
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Necro has a pet that will out DPS a bard and doesn't come with a shared xp penalty.
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Necro has a pet that will out DPS a bard and doesn't come with a shared xp penalty.
if the necro was an iksar wouldn't that xp penalty be almost the same? I don't know the exact % but an iksar monks penalty is worse then a hybrids. bard can also charm any merb type for a pet and that will very much out DPS a skelly pet.

bard can also haste/str/dex buff during a fear kite to further push rogues deeps.
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:26 PM
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if the necro was an iksar wouldn't that xp penalty be almost the same? I don't know the exact % but an iksar monks penalty is worse then a hybrids. bard can also charm any merb type for a pet and that will very much out DPS a skelly pet.

bard can also haste/str/dex buff during a fear kite to further push rogues deeps.
Racial xp penalty isn't shared, just class.

You're right about the other stuff. I'm thinking charmed bard pet is going to make for some downtime though. Pretty close id say.
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Old 12-19-2014, 10:29 PM
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I didn't know that, thought it was all shared.. something new every learned
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Old 12-20-2014, 04:18 AM
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Racial xp penalty isn't shared, just class.

You're right about the other stuff. I'm thinking charmed bard pet is going to make for some downtime though. Pretty close id say.
If the bard begins at full mana, he wont need to recoup mana doing this w a rogue duo for about two hours, if at all. It's easy to twist in heal song doing this, and with a Breath of Harmony clicky you are looking at 40-50 hp regen per tick to compensate for any mistakes or stray mob blows. People who complain about the bard xp penalty either have played with only shitty bards or dont understand how much they bring to the table.
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Old 12-20-2014, 03:56 PM
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Racial xp penalty isn't shared, just class.
Naw. http://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Mec...perience_Works
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