Possible to run on a mac?

[Ishio]

Originally Posted by Muzyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every benchmark ever posted about OSX vs Windows7 3d performance has Win7 simply owning OSX. OSX opengl development is always on the backburner, it is far from optimized and missing many features of it's Windows counterpart. The same goes for video drivers in OSX, they stink. Not to forget you're not even running WoW in opengl but directx mode under Win7.

If you're a student who want's to buy an overpriced laptop with great battery life, get a Mac. If you like to game then don't waste your money and get a PC.

Thanks, already said that. Where are these statistics as fast as Win 7 owning OSX? And yeah I compared WoW in Dx vs Open GL it's still a test and stands. Obviously in this case Open GL runs better huh? No, that just makes too much sense.

A mac is not just a computer with a great battery life. Get over that way of thinking. It's a better computer as it runs faster and smoother compared with Win 7. I'm not a fanboy or anything, I'm just stating the facts as I see them.

[SlankyLanky]

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is so wrong on so many levels. Not everyone who buys a mac thinks OMG i am so leet with my mac, and you are so ghey with your PC. Why are Mac's better in ways, and I am firm on the "in ways," is that they are a more stable computer. The operating system is more stable in so many ways it's not even funny. I own a MacBook Pro, AND a custom Gaming Windows 7 Desktop machine. I use my Macbook for school, as the battery gets me up to 7 hours of life. Also for gaming it does very well with bootcamp. My desktop, I use to play graphic intensive games like Fallout New Vegas. I don't wish to warp and burn my motherboard on my laptop so I don't game heavily on it.

Generally since I can dual boot, OSX and Windows 7 on my mac (something PC's can't do easily), I was able to run some tests for my own knowledge. First off, boot times from a cold start, OSX is up in 40seconds. Windows 7, 1min 30. iTunes opens up in OSX in about 10s while in Windows 7, it opens in 24s. Steam opens in about 14s in OSX and 38s in Windows 7. World of Warcraft, I used this because I can't run the same EQ client in both games and it's a good measurement for lag and frame rates, run at Medium on both, OSX ~40-60fps, Windows 7 ~20-30. Both are playable, yet in OSX I have flexibility to add more options and still be a higher FPS than Win7.

Basically what this means is that OSX, the way it was programed optimizes the components a lot better than Windows 7 does. It boosts the CPU and Ram when needed and idles them when it doesn't need them as much. You might think well that's great for saving energy and great on battery life but not much more. No, it also prolongs the life of your components because there is less of a load on them so they have time to relax.

Get over the whole Mac sucks because it's a college student laptop and it's just to be apart of a stupid club. No, not everyone is all OMG OMG OMG I have to have this shinny computer and pay out the ass for it. Yes, mac is expensive, but I felt my laptop was well worth the price. I have never owned a computer I can rely on, and I have owned many windows machines.

MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Core 2 Duo, 4GB ram, 500GB 5,400 RPM HDD, 9800GT v-card 512MB *bench tests used the 9800GT as windows by defaults turns this dedicated card on*
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Mac OSX latest 10.6 edition.

Get out of your mindset. Let people make their decisions. I use my laptop, as I said, for school. I'm going for a Web Design and Interactive Media degree, so I use adobe's programs which run amazingly on it. I can render in Photoshop so quickly, Illustrator which always gave me problems on my desktop, runs perfectly on my mac.

Just because someone prefers a mac over a PC doesn't mean they suck or are losers. My opinions here are in the middle. I prefer to use my Mac for school, and I use my Desktop to play games. If someone wants to use their mac and run Bootcamp, because that option is available, let them.

i have no fucking clue what any of that means. because im a dumb pc user.

[Ishio]

Originally Posted by SlankyLanky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have no fucking clue what any of that means. because im a dumb pc user.

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[SlankyLanky]

i was being serious...i have no idea what any of that technical stuff means.

[Muzyn]

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks, already said that. Where are these statistics as fast as Win 7 owning OSX? And yeah I compared WoW in Dx vs Open GL it's still a test and stands. Obviously in this case Open GL runs better huh? No, that just makes too much sense.

A mac is not just a computer with a great battery life. Get over that way of thinking. It's a better computer as it runs faster and smoother compared with Win 7. I'm not a fanboy or anything, I'm just stating the facts as I see them.

Read it and weep, hipster.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ws_part3&num=1

[jbs89]

I run it on VMWare Fusion flawlessly, they also give u 12 months of McAfee (remember these programs? another reason I love mac)

it used to have issues and I needed to download some patch that other Bootcamp users told me about but zero issues with my fresh bootcamp install.

I recommend buying Windows XP (hated Vista and love OS X)

edit: yes Windows does have a tendency to run games faster, mainly because most games are ported to mac from windows architecture, not made from the ground up for Mac.

People play WOW in Bootcamp because of this, but I much prefer NOT using Windows (I have to pay for Norton or such!!) and the difference is negligible for any native OS X games.


Also using mac doesnt mean your a Hipster... how inane.. I prefer mac because of the simple strong security and easy to use features that Windows 7 copies.

Vista sucked and Windows 7 looks like OS X imo

[Ishio]

Originally Posted by Muzyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Read it and weep, hipster.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ws_part3&num=1

Originally Posted by Article

So while Microsoft Windows 7 Professional took the lead in all of these gaming tests on Apple hardware, aside from when using Intel integrated graphics/

Hmmm, as I may have stated several times. Want to game? Windows 7. Want to do graphics or have a more stable computer, go OSX.

Thank you for supporting me.

[Muzyn]

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmmm, as I may have stated several times. Want to game? Windows 7. Want to do graphics or have a more stable computer, go OSX.

Thank you for supporting me.

My overclocked i7 running Windows7 is as stable as a computer gets. Oh - and i'm getting way better FPS.

Windows isn't the problem..it's people who click on every link trying to get porn / pirated shit. OSX is just a stupidity shield for people.

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Ishio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes you are right, but I start the timing on after I choose the boot from the boot menu. The only thing Win 7 has to start up is the essentials, it's a builders copy so it has no crap ware, plus boot camp. Compared to my desktop it may, MAY add an extra 5 seconds, regardless it's still way slower to load than OSX. There are no "virtual drivers." I'm just loading the real drivers that run the hardware, and make windows start it. It's not like trying to make a hackintosh where you have to get OSX to bypass the fact that there's a chip in the hardware.

Like I said I still prefer to game on my desktop. I use a 20.1" monitor which I prefer over my 15" laptop.

Really? I loaded the bootcamp drivers so that I could have full functionality on my touchpad. Saved be the effort of having to download all of them manually (there were a BUNCH missing, graphics, audio etc.). Given all of that, OSX boots up in about 14 seconds, Windows 7 x64 takes about 20 for me. Personally I think this Mac operating system is just silly as shit. I mean, the firewall is off by default, it comes with a ton of (IMO) bloatware (photobooth, iPhoto, this annoying Mobile Me software I can't get rid of), and I absolutely despise Quicktime/iTunes (I've never met an educated, computer literate Mac user who didn't immediately install VLC player).

I don't understand the train of thought that causes people to assume that everybody who owns a Mac is a hipster doofus though. Is it jealousy, flame baiting, general naivety, or something else?

I don't think they're that expensive either. Then again I'm not the type of person that would ever buy a $400 laptop at Best Buy and be happy with it. I'm willing to spend a little money to get a product I'll enjoy and that will (hopefully) last. I know I purchased mine and got a free 8gp iPod touch that could easily have netted me $150-$200 back had I chose to sell it.

[Muzyn]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really? I loaded the bootcamp drivers so that I could have full functionality on my touchpad. Saved be the effort of having to download all of them manually (there were a BUNCH missing, graphics, audio etc.). Given all of that, OSX boots up in about 14 seconds, Windows 7 x64 takes about 20 for me. Personally I think this Mac operating system is just silly as shit. I mean, the firewall is off by default, it comes with a ton of (IMO) bloatware (photobooth, iPhoto, this annoying Mobile Me software I can't get rid of), and I absolutely despise Quicktime/iTunes (I've never met an educated, computer literate Mac user who didn't immediately install VLC player).

I don't understand the train of thought that causes people to assume that everybody who owns a Mac is a hipster doofus though. Is it jealousy, flame baiting, general naivety, or something else?

I don't think they're that expensive either. Then again I'm not the type of person that would ever buy a $400 laptop at Best Buy and be happy with it. I'm willing to spend a little money to get a product I'll enjoy and that will (hopefully) last. I know I purchased mine and got a free 8gp iPod touch that could easily have netted me $150-$200 back had I chose to sell it.

Apple still sells Macbook Pros and Airs with 4 year old core 2 processors for over $1000. Not that expensive? I'd rather buy a $400-$500 HP every year or 2 with faster cpu/gpu. But hey, as long as the outside looks pretty.. who cares.