Late game Min/maxing class race list

[Orruar]

Shaman: Troll

The same 2-3 people are always here talking up ogre stun immunity for shaman, but they don't know what they're doing. They are the kind of shaman that probably still uses JBB click spam at level 60.

[sealer]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman: Troll

The same 2-3 people are always here talking up ogre stun immunity for shaman, but they don't know what they're doing. They are the kind of shaman that probably still uses JBB click spam at level 60.

Am a troll shaman, and shit i still JBB click spam... I solo the spore king once i get that bitch slowed and dmg it down with JBB then dot him up at 30%.. shit is cake

WTS 14 fungi tunics

[Forsale]

imho:

SK: Ogre
Pally: Dwarf as tank / High Elf as group healer
Warrior: Ogre
Bard: Human (only bard race able to wear robes)
Rogue: Human (best rogue race able to wear robes)
Monk: Iksar
Shaman: Ogre solo / Iksar in group/raid (regen + only bard race able to wear robes)
Wizard: Erudite
Magician: Erudite
Enchanter: High Elf (High base CHA)
Ranger: Human (only ranger race able to wear robes)
Druid: Human (only druid race able to wear robes)
Necro: Iksar
Cleric: High Elf (high base CHA/WIS + robes!)

[Lunababy]

When it comes to Shaman there is no best. They all offer something:

Barbarian - Good faction
Ogre - Stun immunity
Troll - Evil faction + regen
Iksar - Regen + A/C + Solo faction

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Lunababy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When it comes to Shaman there is no best. They all offer something:

Barbarian - Good faction
Ogre - Stun immunity
Troll - Evil faction + regen
Iksar - Regen + A/C + Solo faction

i gotta disagree from a min/maxing pov ogre still wins. Torper grabs innate regen and throws it out the window. faction doesnt help the shaman class in anyway, its just a convenience. ac not as good as everyone says, at least not on here. frontal stun immunity is one of the best racial traits there is. hide/sneak is up there as well. anyways if you had BiS 60 shaman of each race lined up against the wall, id argue the ogre would be king in both pve and pvp.

just to put this out there, i hate min/maxing. im just answering the OP. i have iksar shaman, gnome necros, dark elf warriors, and a bunch of other shit that i just enjoy. play what you like but dont kid yourself when it comes to simple min/maxing question. no need to get defensive about common sense.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i gotta disagree from a min/maxing pov ogre still wins. Torper grabs innate regen and throws it out the window. faction doesnt help the shaman class in anyway, its just a convenience. ac not as good as everyone says, at least not on here. frontal stun immunity is one of the best racial traits there is. hide/sneak is up there as well. anyways if you had BiS 60 shaman of each race lined up against the wall, id argue the ogre would be king in both pve and pvp.

just to put this out there, i hate min/maxing. im just answering the OP. i have iksar shaman, gnome necros, dark elf warriors, and a bunch of other shit that i just enjoy. play what you like but dont kid yourself when it comes to simple min/maxing question. no need to get defensive about common sense.

as far as shaman goes, as a Barb youll ever so often be like RAAAGE!!!! IF I HAD FRONTAL STUN *SHAKING FIST& CURSING!!* and be at 60% health instead of 90 after some stupid jerk mob does something that is frustrating.

But as ogre youll only be like, 'i kinda wish I had an eyepatch' like pretty much all of the time..

One of those emotions may give you a heart attack IRL, so you can choose which one is more important to you.

[trist4n]

I've always been curious if I should reroll my monk because he is human. The hp regen would be pretty amazing, and the AC bonus goes without saying. I just hated the idea of being KOS everywhere. That just seemed like a game mechanic that I did not want to deal with.

[Ravager]

Druid: Elf Tunare if http://wiki.project1999.com/Warden_Symbol_of_Tunare ever makes its way into the game.

Also, the cultural chainmail is neat.

[fuark]

Originally Posted by trist4n [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've always been curious if I should reroll my monk because he is human. The hp regen would be pretty amazing, and the AC bonus goes without saying. I just hated the idea of being KOS everywhere. That just seemed like a game mechanic that I did not want to deal with.

Iksar monk is better, but does it honestly matter? Play whatever you think is coolest, it's not too big of a deal. As long as you have a fungi, your hp will regen while FDed.

I have a DE necro because I think they are way cooler than Iksars. Are Iksars better? Way better. But did it ever hinder my necro? Not really.

[fiveeauxfour]

Originally Posted by fuark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iksar monk is better, but does it honestly matter? Play whatever you think is coolest, it's not too big of a deal. As long as you have a fungi, your hp will regen while FDed.

This. The fungi tunic really diminishes the combat efficacy of the iksar regen. Iksars have 8 more hp/tick standing regen than humans, so in a solo combat situation that wont make much of a difference. That means every minute is going to net the Iksar 80 more hp; with a fungi the numbers are 270 hp/min iksar vs 190 hp/min human. When mobs (like drolvarg capt and guards) hit easily in the 100's and do so multiple times during a single fight, it is going to be difficult to comp that loss of hp...again the 80hp isn't going to be felt. The fungi will tho. Its all about that fungi. Get a fungi. FUNGI!

The increased AC can never be overcome but in endgame situations, for example tanking quadding 200s, that small amount of AC isn't going to save you. A def disc will, but why are you tanking anyways? FD the aggro an use innerflame ffs.

I chose the race that I currently play because I wanna look at human tail rather than iksar tail. giggidy.