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Old 10-31-2014, 01:41 PM
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It is by all means free speech, and should remain perfectly legal in every regard. I'm simply arguing, along with people like Anita Sarkeesian, that it should be beneath our contempt and understood as detrimental to a world in which we treat women as human beings - human beings who are every bit as human as men.

It should be unappealing to everyone. The people championing GamerGate have this perception that a less patriarchal video game industry - a less patriarchal world - would somehow be lacking or less pleasing to them. I don't understand this in any way whatsoever. Awareness about issues, whether those issues are tropes or the blatant objectification of women, have never made me enjoy something less.

I'm done dancing around the issue about GamerGate, and I'm calling a spade a spade. GamerGate was founded on misogyny, it promulgates misogyny, it reinforces misogyny, and it is synonymous with misogyny.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:06 PM
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It is by all means free speech, and should remain perfectly legal in every regard. I'm simply arguing, along with people like Anita Sarkeesian, that it should be beneath our contempt and understood as detrimental to a world in which we treat women as human beings - human beings who are every bit as human as men.
Then why are you so upset? They have the right to create the kind of games they wish, you have the right to criticize them, and women have the right to play or not play those video games as they choose. Why the need for the strong language?
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:20 PM
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Then why are you so upset? They have the right to create the kind of games they wish, you have the right to criticize them, and women have the right to play or not play those video games as they choose. Why the need for the strong language?
Because - in case you've so easily forgotten - women who even dare to utter a word about these issues are having their personal information published, being forced to flee their homes because of the constant death threats and threats of violence and rape, and can't even go about holding a seminar without someone threatening to go on a fucking shooting spree.

That is the death of free speech. A better question is, why aren't more people upset about this?
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:41 PM
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Because - in case you've so easily forgotten - women who even dare to utter a word about these issues are having their personal information published, being forced to flee their homes because of the constant death threats and threats of violence and rape, and can't even go about holding a seminar without someone threatening to go on a fucking shooting spree.

That is the death of free speech. A better question is, why aren't more people upset about this?
Here's the long list of female critics harmed since the start of all of this:
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:48 PM
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being forced to flee their homes because of the constant death threats and threats of violence and rape, and can't even go about holding a seminar without someone threatening to go on a fucking shooting spree.
If it is against the law, the police will handle it. If it's a bunch of internet tough guys, who cares?
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Old 10-31-2014, 05:53 PM
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If it is against the law, the police will handle it. If it's a bunch of internet tough guys, who cares?
I just don't buy the "internet tough guy" argument. I mean, look at Adam Lanza. Look at Elliot Rodger. Guns are available and psychopathy is a very real thing. The way in which the Utah State threats were handled was absolutely irresponsible, and the police hardly "handled" it at all, which is why she had to cancel the lecture.

This is something that needs to change unless we want to see more innocent people killed for absolutely no sensible reason whatsoever.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:09 PM
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It is by all means free speech, and should remain perfectly legal in every regard. I'm simply arguing, along with people like Anita Sarkeesian, that it should be beneath our contempt and understood as detrimental to a world in which we treat women as human beings - human beings who are every bit as human as men.

It should be unappealing to everyone. The people championing GamerGate have this perception that a less patriarchal video game industry - a less patriarchal world - would somehow be lacking or less pleasing to them. I don't understand this in any way whatsoever. Awareness about issues, whether those issues are tropes or the blatant objectification of women, have never made me enjoy something less.

I'm done dancing around the issue about GamerGate, and I'm calling a spade a spade. GamerGate was founded on misogyny, it promulgates misogyny, it reinforces misogyny, and it is synonymous with misogyny.
I love your posts. Always good for a laugh. Can you even make a post where you're not trying to champion some cause or use the word misogyny (usually multiple times)? You're so fired up about an issue that less than 1% of the population even knows or cares about. I can picture you on some street corner handing out pamphlets on 'GamerGate' with the terms misogyny and tropes written all over it thinking the average successful adult even gives two shits about this. I know, I know... It's all just a reflection on the bigger picture of our patriarchal society and all it's wrongs. Keep on keeping on, brother. One day you'll get to touch a real vagina.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:13 PM
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an issue that less than 1% of the population even knows or cares about.
Making my own point for me. It's a shame it's lost on you.
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:58 PM
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I thought GG started off about corruption in video game journalism and then feminists tried to jump on the issue to gain more awareness to their batshit crazy ideas.
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:08 PM
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Well it really started with a female game developer cheating on her boyfriend, that boyrfriend being a stupid nerd and posting on her blog about it like a cry baby. And then everyone in the 4chan realising that hte person she cheated on him with worked as a game journalist.. so they started saying OMG SHE TRADED SEX FOR GOOD REVIEWS! then it turned out the journalist in question, or the publication he worked for never published anything about her game.. so it was just a bunch of stupd nerds shouting fire when there is none.

THEN they tried to say it was about integrity targeting Anita Sarkeesian after her having set up a crowd funded web-series and getting 100k'ish for it. They claimed that her videos could be made for far less than she says they cost to make.. So they started demanding that she publish receipts for all her spending on them, thinking that she was just pulling some sort of internet scam. Using the yet again false accusation as the reason why they are attacking her.

Ironically prior to becoming public enemy #1 for gamergate, the only public connection these two women had with each other were that they spoke out on the web for gaming equality and fair representation for women in video games.

Since then gamergate attempted to say its about 'journalistic integrity' but they also are too dumb to understand that biased reviews are how reviews have worked since the inception of reviews, let alone the life span. You find someone who's opinions match yours, and you listen to them, because you like their opinions because are in line with yours.

tl;dr a bunch of anti social nerds, are all hopped up on crazy pills and also in most cases hate women because of the constant fear of rejection they feel when they get out of bed every day, alone.

Side bonus, everyone IN the games industry listens to Anita Sarkeesian, and HATES gamergate.

At least anyone who is employable!

So the games industry is safe, while 4chan? You can still go there to enjoy people that have similar taste (aside from classic eq) as the racist piece of garbage, Rust1d.
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