how to get fatter

[Reiker]

Your plan, at the very least, would consist of:

1) Creating a new nation
2) Rounding up all the "healthy, educated" people of the world and placing them within your new nation.
- What do you do when a healthy person in your nation becomes unhealthy/fat? What do you do when an elderly person becomes senile? What do you do when someone loses their job/home and becomes malnourished due to lack of food? What do you do when an "unfit" child is born in your nation? Kick them all out? Euthanize them?

or (the easier option):

1) Take over a nation and remove / exterminate everyone whom you deem "unfit." I believe someone else attempted this in history, and things didn't work out very well for them. Good luck with your syphilis.

[Harrison]

Lol hasbinbad's life is so empty now without a guild to play in that he's resorted to fabricating arguments from thin air on the forums to a game no one wants him on...

[ryuut1]

if you care about world hunger, then maybe you don't know. that was a bleeding heart issue in the 90's. now we care about natural disaster victims. get with it.

and who the fuck cares if people in the congo starve to death? or in vietnam? or in india?

i live in america, where we've established plenty of food for our own people. fuck those other dudes, they'll move over here eventually.

[Harrison]

We have starving of our own to care for, but hippies don't give a fuck about their own countrymen.

It's the downtrodden of other places where they kill each other with abandon that need our help! Fuck our own people!

[Unfun]

The whole "fuck everyone else", survival of the fittest ideal does not work in today's societal climate. If you study any economics, politics, and world agriculture you can easily derive the conclusion that every nation's (and individuals) actions affect everyone else. As much as you'd like to think you can just forget all the starving and suffering people around the world it will just end up coming back to hinder you in the end.

Also, Hasbinbad has been replying with sensible and logical arguments and some people have been replying with rude and useless posts. If you have something thoughtful and useful to argue then please reply. I believe these forums can foster mature conversation.

...perhaps I am wasting my words on a post about getting fatter..

[Harrison]

Lol your first post was wasted supporting a useless piece of shit who desires everyone in the armed forces in the U.S. to die a horrible death...

That is the caliber of retard you are supporting.

(Here comes the inevitable response from Hasbinbad, Purist, or Bodeanicus. I bet which are all the same spoiled little shit with no job, getting everything from daddy.)

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your plan, at the very least, would consist of:

1) Creating a new nation

This is something I agree with. The current system is set up to support certain elements of mainstream society that I believe have vested interests in the existence of unhealthy consumers. A new society would need to be set up, and some people might think that is an unreachable goal; I consider it possible, even probable given the right circumstances.

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Rounding up all the "healthy, educated" people of the world and placing them within your new nation.
- What do you do when a healthy person in your nation becomes unhealthy/fat? What do you do when an elderly person becomes senile? What do you do when someone loses their job/home and becomes malnourished due to lack of food? What do you do when an "unfit" child is born in your nation? Kick them all out? Euthanize them?

None of the above. Subsequent generations have been proven to be able to better respond to harmful stimuli.. If you want evidence, look at the numbers for smoking between the 30-50 age group and the 15-30 age group. Given the right society, where so much value isn't placed into advertising things that aren't healthy and a set of values to more thoroughly endorse education and health in society - contrasted to the current values we have which endorse convenience, comfort, and hedonism (mostly centered on eating patterns), I believe people would become more educated and healthy. I believe in this form of a society, people would use more energy towards goals which were positive for the society than they currently do through donations of time or money to (mostly) private charities etc..

This is really common sense stuff here. We've been poisoned by generations of research into how to shape our decisions. People in this country beat the drum of freedom until it is worn and weary, but seem to eternally gloss over this fact. We are only as free as our choices, and honestly the choice to live in a healthy way in city environments is not new, is was supplanted by less healthy massive private interests for a large period of time in the recent past.

Control the food supply, make certain things unavailable and promote certain things, and you would simply breed healthy, educated people over time, without the need to resort to any of these drastic measures:

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) Take over a nation and remove / exterminate everyone whom you deem "unfit."

syphilis.

[Unfun]

Originally Posted by Harrison [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol your first post was wasted supporting a useless piece of shit who desires everyone in the armed forces in the U.S. to die a horrible death...

That is the caliber of retard you are supporting.

(Here comes the inevitable response from Hasbinbad, Purist, or Bodeanicus. I bet which are all the same spoiled little shit with no job, getting everything from daddy.)

What makes a first post more significant than any other post? I created an account, read something, decided to comment about it.

Also, just because I agree with what some of Hasbinbad is saying in this post does not imply that I agree with every idea he has. He is not running for for a political campaign nor is he representing me in any way. His views are his own and I can decide whether to agree or disagree with whatever he or anyone else says. Its a logical fallacy to call an argument is false just because you strongly disagree with something totally unrelated or don't like the person saying it. Honestly, I think that conflict and disagreements can be healthy assuming that both parties interested in learning something and are willing to listen.

[ryuut1]

you guys who are arguing against self preservation and fuck everyone else just haven't been to the real armpits of the world. go over there and try to help them, see how long you last.

[Unfun]

Originally Posted by ryuut1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you guys who are arguing against self preservation and fuck everyone else just haven't been to the real armpits of the world. go over there and try to help them, see how long you last.

Care to elaborate? Does this statement come from personal experience? I'm not claiming to have all the answers nor do I have extensive first-hand experience trying to help people in extreme need. I'd be interesting in hearing why you think this and/or your perspective on equality (if you think such a thing exists).

I understand that some people in needy situations are "takers" who really don't care to help themselves. However, I find that to be a poor excuse to abandon for people who really want to contribute to society and their community. I'm not really sure what a realistic solution is yet, but I'm not willing to throw in the towel on humanity quite yet either. Maybe I'm just a dreamer...