Dear Azrael

[Stasis01]

I think calling Lite scummy and talking shit will make him be less scummy and play nicer.

While at the same harboring old school grudges like the top jew, and other Nihi allies.

[Not Salem]

Originally Posted by Ricquire

No perspective, no knowledge, biased spoon fed opinions, brainwashed.

[Stasis01]

Literally won't read or reply to that shit Ricquire, I already have Rexx if I want to get a noob fired up, and I really don't care about what your opinion is.

[ricquire]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literally won't read or reply to that shit Ricquire, I already have Rexx if I want to get a noob fired up, and I really don't care about what your opinion is.

Another example of closed minded-ly hating someone you have never even spoke to.

Where is Irah when you need a Jimmies-Rustled-O-Meter.

[Vharvest]

Derubael, if I sent you five different fraps clips of Azrael members training my XP groups in different zones, are you gonna do something about it?

Just wondering, if not I don't wanna waste my time, because if raw evidence isn't enough then nothing is.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Vharvest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael, if I sent you five different fraps clips of Azrael members training my XP groups in different zones, are you gonna do something about it?

Just wondering, if not I don't wanna waste my time, because if raw evidence isn't enough then nothing is.

No, because I'm not going to be making the final calls on disputes like this anymore. IF you have good, clear fraps of being trained that show you being trained, put them up on the petition forum and Sirken, Aussie, or Eunomia will make a determination based on the evidence you provide.

If the fraps are just a blurry mess, or they don't clearly establish evidence of a train when heavily scrutinized, then it's probably best to just file them away in a drawer somewhere.

Originally Posted by ricquire

Last post I promise.

The sad part is I have remorse based on my statements.

Nihilum bore the cross for everything wrong on the box, was disbanded, many quit, and some criticize the management.

Azreal has no shame, doing the same shit, all while seemingly getting a free pass on boxing and being invited to live-streams and telling others they have special protection.

Which is worse

Not here to compare guilds, I think each had/has their faults. I have never held any illusions that Azrael was some miracle saint answer to the raid/guild scene on Red 99. My concern has never been who is "better" or "worse" for the server. I compile the evidence and numbers where available and apply them where they are needed.

Let's not forget that Nihilum and Nizzar were both given a second (or by many reports, more like 4th or 5th) chance after he was caught red handed selling items out of the guild bank for real life cash. We purposefully left Nihilum up and running because we were worried that disbanding it right then and there would have crippled or even destroyed the server.

As far as Lite goes, I rarely log into Red to do anything but clear the petition queue and do reimbursements/complete database tasks. If he is habitually boxing, he will assuredly get caught at some point, just like Nizzar did for RMT. It's only a matter of time and proper man-power before a take-down would occur if he is playing so closely with fire so often.

Regardless, I won't be the one doing the "busting", though I will likely be asked to run a query on the login table to further corroborate a guilty boxing verdict. From this point forward, you're all just strings of 6 numbers or less cobbled together in a queryable profile blob and table columns. The tinfoil hatters will have to find someone else to blame, because I'm removing myself as a target for their theories.

[Vharvest]

It's not a dispute. They're blatantly breaking the rules.

A "dispute" would be two different interpretations of the rules, based on one viewpoint vs. the other. It's very clearly stated in the server policy that using mobs or NPC's to train and kill other players is a violation. Therefore, Lite and his guild are violating that policy.

The clips themselves are indisputable. I'll go ahead and post them in the petition forum, but sadly, I have a feeling they won't be addressed, for many reasons that go back to a time before I joined the server.

It's very discouraging to a player that's been on the box for a month to receive a "pass the buck" response, but I know you probably don't give two flips about red anymore, and I wouldn't either. Yet another reason to blame Nihilum/Azrael for the toxic environment I find myself playing this game in.

Sigh.

[ricquire]

Originally Posted by Vharvest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not a dispute. They're blatantly breaking the rules.

A "dispute" would be two different interpretations of the rules, based on one viewpoint vs. the other. It's very clearly stated in the server policy that using mobs or NPC's to train and kill other players is a violation. Therefore, Lite and his guild are violating that policy.

The clips themselves are indisputable. I'll go ahead and post them in the petition forum, but sadly, I have a feeling they won't be addressed, for many reasons that go back to a time before I joined the server.

It's very discouraging to a player that's been on the box for a month to receive a "pass the buck" response, but I know you probably don't give two flips about red anymore, and I wouldn't either. Yet another reason to blame Nihilum/Azrael for the toxic environment I find myself playing this game in.

Sigh.

+1 again. This is the kind of player a good server needs.

Break the mold, ask questions, expect accountability.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Vharvest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not a dispute. They're blatantly breaking the rules.

A "dispute" would be two different interpretations of the rules, based on one viewpoint vs. the other. It's very clearly stated in the server policy that using mobs or NPC's to train and kill other players is a violation. Therefore, Lite and his guild are violating that policy.

The clips themselves are indisputable. I'll go ahead and post them in the petition forum, but sadly, I have a feeling they won't be addressed, for many reasons that go back to a time before I joined the server.

It's very discouraging to a player that's been on the box for a month to receive a "pass the buck" response, but I know you probably don't give two flips about red anymore, and I wouldn't either. Yet another reason to blame Nihilum/Azrael for the toxic environment I find myself playing this game in.

Sigh.

The main reason I am no longer doing "front-line" CSR support on Red has nothing to do with Azrael or Nilly or anyone else for that matter. While the servers attitude certainly doesn't help, I love this community to much to bail for that reason.

In reality, I have too much going on IRL lately, and CSR related database look-ups are a full time job here on P99. At any given time of the week/month there are upwards of 100 petitions in the petition/exploit forum that are "Derubael only". That doesn't leave a ton of time for the in-game stuff, which is why we have Guides. I stopped offering CSR support on Blue for in-game stuff except for the occasional free moment I have between look-ups months ago for this same reason.

If you have a valid fraps of getting trained, they will get looked at, and if they show a train, we'll follow our CSR policies for moving forward with that. Repeat offenders will receive a harsher punishment that first time trainers. Whether the train was intentional or not is usually factored into this as well. Someone who accidentally trains someone at a zone-line when he didn't know someone was there obviously warrants a different punishment than someone dropping a fat train by FD'ing in the middle of your MM GY group. Any time you submit a fraps you should always take a moment to level your expectations with our perceptions of a situation. We don't have complete 360 degree or near complete 360 degree situational awareness like you do when you are being trained - we have the limited view your fraps provides, so the evidence itself must be in the fraps, and must be clear. Most training suspensions based on fraps end up being a result extrapolations made from the fraps, rather than the fraps itself directly showing a violation, if that makes sense. Unfortunately, fraps are not always clear enough to show a clear enough circumstance to warrant a punishment. In other words, you have to be a good camera man and understand how we are going to look at your fraps when it's published and sent into us. We need to be 100% sure that a violation took place and who did the violating. If we can't ascertain that from your fraps, it will get bounced, and we will not be able to help.

As a side note we label all petitions that involve a rule violation between two players a "dispute". It's just an easy way for us to label a group of petitions and know what we are talking about.

[Kinamara]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the evidence itself must be in the fraps, and must be clear.

Ok, so that was the reason why Vaporize and Agatha got characters banned recently due to Azrael training themselves based on the below proof?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9orjUWqBoQ