Dark Ascension

[Wrei]

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I'm very happy that you guys managed to down her, just unhappy as to how you got to attempt her. Where is the competitive spirit of racing to a mob? I'd hate to toss mud again in Trans's direction but this whole "if we can't race 'em camp 'em" mentality is just extremely lame.
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So don't think of this post as being all bitter over losing a dragon. I'm happy for Divinity (those that know me online know I'm a reasonable guy). The zerg doesn't bother me, the camp certainly does. I've said my piece so troll away.

G13 stop stealing my quotes. I demand royalty fees... Kidding aside it saddens me that the very thing I was worried about became a reality. Back then when this issue was brought up you all cried about how IB is whining on losing a dragon when the camp issue could have been fixed back then. Everyone had to endure the Poopsock wars which turned off a lot of players out of p99, and now DA is hellbent on bringing it back after getting spanked in Sky.

What baffles me is DA says:

1. We are the best in this server and IB cheats their way to the top.
2. We have some good to great players.
3. We got the numbers.
4. We got the dedication to raid hardcore.
5. If you lose a mob to us : A- Stop crying B- Your guild sucks
6. If you beat us to a mob: A- Stop hacking B- GM Favoritism C- Stop bending the rules

Yet, why can't you guys assert yourselves like IB did instead of resorting to the good ol Poopsock. Now that you guys have to camp at the "spawn" point, I'd love to see step 2 of the anti camp policy. Increase variance to + or - 4 days and see if all your skilled raiders can stay on your keyboards 24/7.

It's clear DA is trying to be great at something, they ARE the bar for poopsocking. If devs want to eliminate that part of the game all they need to do is use DA as the perfect lab rat. Keep increasing variance until DA stops pooping then you will have your answer on how to maintain the spirit of first to engage rule.

As for CT/Leapfrogging, everything is really muddy in Fear. A lot of misunderstanding can happen between pulling/kiting/DT cycles etc... this is why we all agreed on a set of player rules just for Fear (well aside from the retards in D..*cough* sorry FB who were too cool to agree to anything). Perhaps it's that time again to establish new custom rules just for Fear?

PS: Hopefully people with some pride in DA can step up and stop this nonsense before it becomes accepted behaviour once more.

PPS: Keep it legit guys or no respect!

[G13]

Originally Posted by Wrei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

G13 stop stealing my quotes. I demand royalty fees... Kidding aside it saddens me that the very thing I was worried about became a reality. Back then when this issue was brought up you all cried about how IB is whining on losing a dragon when the camp issue could have been fixed back then. Everyone had to endure the Poopsock wars which turned off a lot of players out of p99, and now DA is hellbent on bringing it back after getting spanked in Sky.

You called it. It was the logical conclusion to the how the raid rules were set up. It was only a matter of time before someone wanted a mob bad enough they'd just park 15 first in zone days in advance to claim it. I'm surprised it went on as long as it did to be honest.

[Goobles]

Originally Posted by G13 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Divinity was the first guild to ever camp a mob on this server

True story

Actually, Transcendence camped Naggy for 12 hours.. and IB tried to steamroll. Yeah... thats when rotations were forced.

[azxten]

Oh and why the fuck do I have any reason to lie? WI is dead as a result of the gayness that is IB and Divinity and I'm done raiding here forever.

I had a week of raiding to see that the only guilds getting kills are the ones breaking the raiding rules. Enough to know the only options are camping mobs or breaking server rules in retaliation and hoping the GMs come out in your favor.

[xorbier]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh and why the fuck do I have any reason to lie? WI is dead as a result of the gayness that is IB and Divinity and I'm done raiding here forever.

I had a week of raiding to see that the only guilds getting kills are the ones breaking the raiding rules. Enough to know the only options are camping mobs or breaking server rules in retaliation and hoping the GMs come out in your favor.

well said

[anthony210]

Can you please quote a server rule that Divinity has broken?

No we did not exploit any DT mechanics in Fear. Each DT cycle was caused from eather killing a golem or accidently agro causing EVERYONE to relog.

This is getting retarded...

[azxten]

Originally Posted by anthony210 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you please quote a server rule that Divinity has broken?

Can you please quote a server rule that DA has broken? Leap frogging is gay. It might not be a server rule but it makes your guild out to be incredible dicks.

Here's how it went down...

WI clears all of Fear and right as we're about to call it quits CT spawns. We wipe, reform, get more members, etc. At this point there are 58 people in Feerrot and no one in Fear (or possibly a couple scouts). I know this because I have a screen shot of /who in the zone. I can see about 48/58 on my window and not a single Divinity member is on the list. You did have maybe 5-10 people though sitting together near us.

We zone in along with Transcendence and loot our gear, res, etc. Pretty much the MOMENT that we finished ressing the DT cycles started and didn't stop for HOURS. Our guild leadership stated that it was Divinity people starting the DT cycle. At this point Divinity still has significantly less people in zone than either WI or Trans.

Eventually as a result of all the relogging Divinity has managed to find the time to get more people in zone. Neither WI or Trans could get to Draco because of all the relogging. Somehow Divinity manages to beat everyone else at the relogging game (Hmm.. I wonder why) and kills Draco right out from under us literally pulls seconds after we had planned to pull except 4 (FOUR) of our Clerics got DTd in a row so we had to abort, relog, and watch Div pull.

Apparently Divinity was fighting golems at the same time here because all DT cycles started from golems or accidents so they must have just snagged Draco because why not? Not to mention seconds earlier only our guild was eating DTs showing Divinity successfully avoided this last crucial cycle.

Now having killed Draco.. the DT cycles continue for a few more hours while both Divinity and WI sit around wondering what the other will do first. Eventually WI gets tired of relogging every 30 seconds and so we start to clear Amys knowing Divinity will just trigger DT along the way and leap frog us when its time. This is exactly what happens.

Divinity celebrates not having to camp for their mobs because why camp when you can combine game mechanic exploits with leap frogging?

Oh and don't forget the last part.. Divinity members come and trash talk DA for camping mobs and brag about their superior competition skills. Eat a dick guys.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you please quote a server rule that DA has broken? Leap frogging is gay. It might not be a server rule but it makes your guild out to be incredible dicks.

Here's how it went down...

WI clears all of Fear and right as we're about to call it quits CT spawns.

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty much the MOMENT that we finished ressing the DT cycles started and didn't stop for HOURS. Our guild leadership stated that it was Divinity people starting the DT cycle. At this point Divinity still has significantly less people in zone than either WI or Trans.

We have a pretty good idea about who was DT cycling, and it wasn't you, us or Trans. You're forgetting - or didn't know - about a certain monk that was in zone, and the golem stacking.

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Somehow Divinity manages to beat everyone else at the relogging game (Hmm.. I wonder why) and kills Draco right out from under us literally pulls seconds after we had planned to pull except 4 (FOUR) of our Clerics got DTd in a row so we had to abort, relog, and watch Div pull.

I'll leave the rest of the post alone, but c'mon. Seriously?

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you please quote a server rule that DA has broken? Leap frogging is gay. It might not be a server rule but it makes your guild out to be incredible dicks.

Here's how it went down...

WI clears all of Fear and right as we're about to call it quits CT spawns. We wipe, reform, get more members, etc. At this point there are 58 people in Feerrot and no one in Fear (or possibly a couple scouts). I know this because I have a screen shot of /who in the zone. I can see about 48/58 on my window and not a single Divinity member is on the list. You did have maybe 5-10 people though sitting together near us.

We zone in along with Transcendence and loot our gear, res, etc. Pretty much the MOMENT that we finished ressing the DT cycles started and didn't stop for HOURS. Our guild leadership stated that it was Divinity people starting the DT cycle. At this point Divinity still has significantly less people in zone than either WI or Trans.

Eventually as a result of all the relogging Divinity has managed to find the time to get more people in zone. Neither WI or Trans could get to Draco because of all the relogging. Somehow Divinity manages to beat everyone else at the relogging game (Hmm.. I wonder why) and kills Draco right out from under us literally pulls seconds after we had planned to pull except 4 (FOUR) of our Clerics got DTd in a row so we had to abort, relog, and watch Div pull.

Apparently Divinity was fighting golems at the same time here because all DT cycles started from golems or accidents so they must have just snagged Draco because why not? Not to mention seconds earlier only our guild was eating DTs showing Divinity successfully avoided this last crucial cycle.

Now having killed Draco.. the DT cycles continue for a few more hours while both Divinity and WI sit around wondering what the other will do first. Eventually WI gets tired of relogging every 30 seconds and so we start to clear Amys knowing Divinity will just trigger DT along the way and leap frog us when its time. This is exactly what happens.

Divinity celebrates not having to camp for their mobs because why camp when you can combine game mechanic exploits with leap frogging?

Oh and don't forget the last part.. Divinity members come and trash talk DA for camping mobs and brag about their superior competition skills. Eat a dick guys.

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[Zenlina]

Originally Posted by azxten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you please quote a server rule that DA has broken? Leap frogging is gay. It might not be a server rule but it makes your guild out to be incredible dicks.

Here's how it went down...

WI clears all of Fear and right as we're about to call it quits CT spawns. We wipe, reform, get more members, etc. At this point there are 58 people in Feerrot and no one in Fear (or possibly a couple scouts). I know this because I have a screen shot of /who in the zone. I can see about 48/58 on my window and not a single Divinity member is on the list. You did have maybe 5-10 people though sitting together near us.

We zone in along with Transcendence and loot our gear, res, etc. Pretty much the MOMENT that we finished ressing the DT cycles started and didn't stop for HOURS. Our guild leadership stated that it was Divinity people starting the DT cycle. At this point Divinity still has significantly less people in zone than either WI or Trans.

Eventually as a result of all the relogging Divinity has managed to find the time to get more people in zone. Neither WI or Trans could get to Draco because of all the relogging. Somehow Divinity manages to beat everyone else at the relogging game (Hmm.. I wonder why) and kills Draco right out from under us literally pulls seconds after we had planned to pull except 4 (FOUR) of our Clerics got DTd in a row so we had to abort, relog, and watch Div pull.

Apparently Divinity was fighting golems at the same time here because all DT cycles started from golems or accidents so they must have just snagged Draco because why not? Not to mention seconds earlier only our guild was eating DTs showing Divinity successfully avoided this last crucial cycle.

Now having killed Draco.. the DT cycles continue for a few more hours while both Divinity and WI sit around wondering what the other will do first. Eventually WI gets tired of relogging every 30 seconds and so we start to clear Amys knowing Divinity will just trigger DT along the way and leap frog us when its time. This is exactly what happens.

Divinity celebrates not having to camp for their mobs because why camp when you can combine game mechanic exploits with leap frogging?

Oh and don't forget the last part.. Divinity members come and trash talk DA for camping mobs and brag about their superior competition skills. Eat a dick guys.

Kind of reminds me about another time DA was up there and the same shit happen, Cept IB had CT claim and we going for draco, but the DT just keep going off, and the zone crashed cos some dick explioting bug, and eventually lost draco to div. At the time was thinkin why would IB do this shit when they have claim to CT, now maybe it was div all along.