Didn't Derubael and other GM's agree something was needed for end game?

[Genedin]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let this sink in for a second. You had a HUGE influx of new players, Azrael was the TOP GUILD ont he box getting 99% of all mobs, and you guys STILL couldnt get anyone.

Not true.

They did get some people, but then they decided these new people needed to get lvl 60, resist gear, and vp keys on their own while they run around and kill Nihilum newbs in KC before they could join the "elite unit." And then these new people left.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhh TZ was the same. PDM mass recruited in the beginning. Darkoan and jerris? Formed disconatiom. EQ has always been bring numbers. The simplexity of the lets you get warm bodies to push buttons in the right order

This is true. No difference between Panda and Nihilum. Fucking cross teamers.

[Gaanon]

Personal shots at me are irrelevant and insignificant, much like Lite not wanting to do Nizzar's job.

If it were possible others would have done it, Lite is the only one to be successful and doesn't want the full time job.

[Genedin]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care, why isn't there other options, even one, you're tunnel visioning your rage at Azrael, I think bigger.

There was another option. Red Dawn. Was thriving.

GM's turn off exp bonus. Red Dawn was 90% people trying to exp up and get gear.
Many of guild's Lvl 60's banned for 2 weeks from Sektor.

You should have seen the message boards. Was an exile of people just leaving the server because it was almost as if GM's wanted RD to die.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Genedin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not true.

They did get some people, but then they decided these new people needed to get lvl 60, resist gear, and vp keys on their own while they run around and kill Nihilum newbs in KC before they could join the "elite unit." And then these new people left.

I'm not this is the whole story, but it isn't a lie.

[Zalaerian]

And jerris ran discordia who later allied to try to stop the PDM zerg

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personal shots at me are irrelevant and insignificant, much like Lite not wanting to do Nizzar's job.

If it were possible others would have done it, Lite is the only one to be successful and doesn't want the full time job.

Define success. Not sure where this is going?

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Zalaerian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And jerris ran discordia who later allied to try to stop the PDM zerg

I got bored of the panda Zerg and played vanguard for a bit before EQ 2. X-teaming killed TZ.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Rettj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hehehe

Legit questions, not a troll. I want to help.

[heartbrand]

I dunno what to tell you. What has Azrael done exactly in all seriousness? Lite took a crew basically gift wrapped to him back in Classic by myself and Samwise, and has added maybe 10-15 people to his "core." That's about it. I don't understand why the concept of having to recruit, level the new recruits, gear them, hold weekly raids, etc., is so shocking to people.

Why do people join Nihilum? Here are the options. Join Azrael where we won't level with you, won't help you with gear, have no scheduled raids, blow up OOC and the forums, and care more about ganking people 6v1 than leveling our new members, have people like Brainz 4 boxing Crypt to himself. OR, you can join Nihilum with 24/7 EXP groups, raids almost every single day, a group of people who rush to help you, hand you gear for free, and are generally friendly in OOC and forums. Man, I can't believe people keep joining Nihilum, it's truly shocking.

I was able to build a brand new core of players in RD 2.0 in 4 weeks. Literally all it took was 4 weeks to get around 35 people brand new to box considering themselves "RD" members. It likely could've gone higher had XP bonus not been removed completely. You had the an opportunity I never had over a month ago with RD, which was a special group EXP Bonus, decreased PVP level range, and a huge influx of new players. If I could get 35 people without any perks or freebies, I would imagine you could do so with all of that, combined with the fact you were getting all of the raid mobs! Yet what did you guys do? Spam the forums after every 50 v 20 victory over Wilan, shit up OOC, put 0 effort into recruiting, etc., etc. Now here you are crying for variance or something else.

You guys had 50 people three weeks ago. You want to know how to compete? RECRUIT. HAVE WEEKLY RAIDS. HAVE CONSTANT EXP GROUPS WORTH DKP. FARM RESIST JEWELRY FOR YOUR MEMBERS. STOP BEING TOXIC. REMOVE WORTHLESS PEOPLE LIKE BRAINZ / SICKPUPPY / CHIPP / SALEM. STOP PRETENDING TO BE A COUNTERSTRIKE GUILD ON A 1999 MMO BUILT AROUND SLAYING DRAGONS.

I won't even charge you a consultation fee on the advice cuz ur an old pal.