Petition to Rogean: Rename 'Raid Discussion' to 'Officer Rants and Flames''

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what an honor

You were cool in my book too till you went red.

[Man0warr]

Also, TMO never had more than 5 people in zone the entire time we were there.

Unbrella's stated goal the whole time was to "kill Shivers/Fetids", straight from his mouth. You guys weren't planning to do an AE clear, so stop your lying Lazie.

It's obvious the last week or so that you are a TMO leadership dick sucker who will do anything to look good in their eyes.

[JayN]

actually you cant have an exp grp in chardok while an aoe grp is going, your grp will die and most likely the aoe grp

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actually you cant have an exp grp in chardok while an aoe grp is going, your grp will die and most likely the aoe grp

Sure you can, you just can't petition that you died because of a train from the AE'ers. Gone in many times and camped Betrayer while AoE was going on.

[Ambrotos]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure you can, you just can't petition that you died because of a train from the AE'ers. Gone in many times and camped Betrayer while AoE was going on.

I would disagree. If you know a group moved there, you can't pull all your mobs through there or whatever. Sitting at zone in negates anything a AOE group's claim imo. That would be incidentally training them, but still a train and punishable.

There are areas in chardok where the train pulls don't agro or even come close to. I always pointed out those areas to people who would petition. I would say those areas are safer to fight in than anywhere in the zone asides from zone out.

In the end, aoeing chardok can be a disruption. Players have worked it out so there hasn't been an issue.

[Fael]

Ambrotos speaks the truth. Its come up before, and specifically stated that if there is a group in the tunnels, then ae group would have to pull around them and face consequences of training them.

Generally, guilds honor the fact that other people were in a zone. They either talk to them, or move on.

I guess BDA isnt going to honor that going forward, which is fine. But ignoring long standing customs may have an adverse effect on the current fear/hate raid scene.
They're attitude as an entire guild toward TMO players is pathetic, and its fostered ill will both ways. Im sick of it.


Dolic

[Lazie]

You should probably stop trying to be a backseat GM as you are no longer on the staff or at least try to read the PNP now.

[Lazie]

AoE is allowed in chardok and other zones when other people are not there to contest it by the way. If another group shows up the original people in the zone must compromise with them and let them have a camp.

[Man0warr]

Maybe in the rules it's wrong, but no AE group has been stopped or punished for training a group doing Betrayer.

AE group has no claim because they are at zone in, but you'd also have to be an idiot to get intentionally trained to try and get the AE group in trouble.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe in the rules it's wrong, but no AE group has been stopped or punished for training a group doing Betrayer.

AE group has no claim because they are at zone in, but you'd also have to be an idiot to get intentionally trained to try and get the AE group in trouble.

Yeah. I can agree and usually most people only want a pipe that go to Chardok and if they talk to the AE group (At least the ones I have been in). They are more than happy to surrender one pipe when he spawns than to deal with the headache of a betrayer group wiping or causing an AE wipe by cross aggroing their pull.