Miscellaneous: Guard Ledshin WFP currently has See Invis

[Bamz4l]

the rabbit hole gets deeper

http://www.therunes.net/forums/viewt...hp?f=16&t=5358

it is verified that sometimes, under some conditions, mobs gain the ability to see invis. Not for someone on their hate list already, but for everyone.

I don't have the references, but a search here should get you the original posts.

http://www.elitegamerslounge.com/hom...?f=167&t=58970

This happens more often then not when your ex pet has residual agro on other mobs in the zone. Another fun thing to do, is say go to Plane of fire, charm a spider, to make life easier cast NDT on it for easier identification later(it matters not, shrink works just as well for that purpose) , then send it out to agro a few mobs. Zone out, then back in again to "clear" your agro. Pet will no longer be fighting, go recharm it and watch the fun begin - every mob that the pet was agro on, will again have agro - and as an added bonus, every mob that those mobs run past, will also chain agro. Most impressive trains can thusly be created. Note that indeed, most of the time (oddly, not all the time) your ex pet will now have the wonderful ability to see invis, weather or not you left zone via gate, or via a dirt nap

^ interesting tidbit, suggesting that a hatelist bug is triggering the see-invis bug.

(same thread)

This is an old old bug, happened using charm pre-luclin even, altho I don't know what specifically causes it. But yes, pretty much any charmed pet randomly gains the ability to see invis after it is released from charm.

... my personal experience is just as a druid with animal charm, but it works the same way.

It is common knowledge by 2004, but my initial finding (and one above) suggest that the bug "existed for years". i'll keep digging later

[Nirgon]

No mobs in EverQuest saw invis because of maybe a charm bug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Care to explain why he saw invis on EQ Mac and why that comment is there?

Hint: not a charm bug

[Potus]

Do you have any proof of him seeing invis on EQMac? A screenshot? Chatlog? Some EQMac posters warning people about him?

What I'm asking is do you have any proof at all besides an Allakhazam post.

[Nirgon]

One of the devs here I believe investigated. Not sure who. Sundawg mentions this and is responsible for the change. I'd take it up with him.

I have evidence saying he did see invis and they saw him as a see invis NPC on Mac... which matches the comment... on an untouched NPC.

If he COULD spawn without see invis, and that's classic... I'd be happy with that and such a thing WAS possible (like seb entrance). However, I am adamant this mob always saw invis and there should be no upcoming change.

[Bamz4l]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Care to explain why he saw invis on EQ Mac and why that comment is there?

Ya,

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the devs here I believe investigated. Not sure who. Sundawg mentions this and is responsible for the change.

[Potus]

Ok so no you have nothing to stand on except that lone Allakhazam post.

[Nirgon]

And Sundawg or someone seeing it on EQ Mac, which was an untouched NPC.

Maybe you shoulda asked them to kill it a few times to see that one that doesn't see invis would never pop. Hence what YOU say is conjecture.

Over 1 xp death people. 1. xp. death.

[Imago]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Over 1 xp death people. 1. xp. death.

Thus, worthy of repair.

[Nirgon]

Except he saw invis when checked on eq Mac. What were the odds lol. I can follow a see invis npc while invis all day as long as I'm not too close to it, even through a sea of non see invis mobs.

Imagine my surprise when the grobb in town guards post I made was spot on too.

[Bamz4l]

ok... then I will take another approach, showing detailed descriptions about people camping Guard Ledshin, and using tactics involving invis:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/z...00034270357839

Thats weird that no one posted about this. Well here is what I do (GREAT kiting for level 29+ if you have the mana!!)I don't recommend this for warriors though. If you are a cleric or pally, replace all "snares" with "roots".

Go to the arena, not the PvP part either, and not if you arent liked by the Steel Warriors. If the latter applies, just stay away from the wall seperating the Arena from the rest of freeport. If you are KOS to the Steel Warriors, just stay in that big open space between the Steel Warriors building and the Arena.

For us who are liked by the warriors (and after you turn in a farkload of Militia Helms, they will like you. I have gone from Apprehensive to Amiably in 3 days)this is easy as Pie...after its been cooked and has cooled a little bit. Because when it is still frozen its kinda hard. But anyway, from 29-33 I recommend Hrakin (don't know about higher yet) and Ledshin. Hrakin spawns 30, Leshin 27. This only will work with a sow, snaring early or rooting early will only make a train. But, you pull your guard from where you see him (get him at his closest point to the Arena. Follow them around either invis or on a non-kos character to see it all) and run like a ranger on a bad raid to the arena. Get on the top riser where Jakom patrols, and run either left or right to where it meets the wall. Turn around and cast Snare, Ensnare, or Root as soon as you can, I click the little gem madly until it starts casting. As soon as it either lands or they look to close, run off to the next lowest riser...NEVER ENTER THE PVP AREA!! That will be death from the guard and maybe even other people because it is so small and hard to escape. As soon as you are on the next riser, if they are not snared or rooted yet (Snare if you can, root makes this difficult)keep attempting until it lands or they make it to 90 degrees away from you in the circle around the arena. If they make it there, continue to run around and cast. Do the same if snared, only cast your most mana efficient DD. Repeat until guard is dead. With snare, as you may have noticed, the point at which they normally run, their AGI is too low to move. This gives you free med time before the next guard. Simply cast a DoT, and med. If you are a ranger, cast ignite and use your bow until he gets close enough to fight. As a pally, when he hurts too much, root, run back and heal. Rangers can do the same but with him still snared it will work fine.

What happens if I run oom? Just run back up to where you started this, that corner on the top level by the wall, and sit and med. If the guard is snared and still on the lower level when you start, count to 12, if unsnared, count to 4, then stand, check him (if he is still far enough way, med another tick) and if close enough go back down to the lower level, sit med and count again to twice what you counted before. Then stand and repeat the DD process.
What happens if I get an add?
RUN!! Run to the EFP zone line with Guard Imillin...the one at the end of the street going to the arena. Be warned you will lose about a bubble of HP zoning...they get a few hits in.

I hope this helps you in killing the dirty dirty humans (humans are bad, m'kay). Any other questions email ben_nageru_hito@msn.com please subject your message something like "YOU #!$%! YOU GOT ME KILLED IN FREEPORT" so I know its an EQ thing and not more porn (yes its lovely, but "too much of a nude thing" really exists) I have been killing freeport guards in EC, WC, EFP, WFP and I hope to expand into Nro soon.

Thronscape - 31 Druid of Torvo. Hateful of humans, hated by humans, destroyer of the human race (can I get banned for that? jk)