Pantheon

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no meltdown, he said himself he needs 10-12 million to make the game and they are waiting for an investor? Who thought 150k was going to fund the game?

All this is, is that there are people who wake up every day hoping for a meltdown.

I'm pretty sure $150k should have gotten them more than a month and shitty unity demo that a single dude could have made in his spare time.

The fact that a number of the developers were blindsided and one of them even said people should try for a chargeback (not gonna happen) says it all. But by all means, continue donating to the Cult of McQuaid.

[Rec]

Originally Posted by thefloydian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure $150k should have gotten them more than a month and shitty unity demo that a single dude could have made in his spare time.

The fact that a number of the developers were blindsided and one of them even said people should try for a chargeback (not gonna happen) says it all. But by all means, continue donating to the Cult of McQuaid.

I've already donated there is no continuing. There's only waiting. But please continue to embarrass yourself like you have any clue what is actually going on.

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've already donated.

Exactly. Because only someone who had donated to this disaster would be fighting me on this. I would love for a game like this to be made, but you have to be delusional to blindly defend Brad when his own dev team is throwing him under the bus.

[Rec]

Originally Posted by thefloydian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. Because only someone who had donated to this disaster would be fighting me on this. I would love for a game like this to be made, but you have to be delusional to blindly defend Brad when his own dev team is throwing him under the bus.

I don't see myself defending Brad anywhere. You said there was a meltdown I see no meltdown. They need more money, they've always needed more money. 150 k is not enough to make the game I don't care what any arm chair quarterback says how it should be used. Please post your evidence to the contrary.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by thefloydian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure $150k should have gotten them more...

I'm no defender of Brad, but $150k barely turns the lights on.

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm no defender of Brad, but $150k barely turns the lights on.

There are no lights to turn on. The people on the team were all working from home, and most of them weren't getting paid shit. You really think putting together a shitty unity demo with an underpaid team of 11 people should eat through 150k in one month?

This is a quote from another forum

Vhalen is on Ktam radio right now and said straight up that he doesn't blame the fans for wanting a charge back. He said the entire team was blind sided by Brad's announcement and he is very disappointed. For those that don't know, Vhalen is one of the few devs that actually did work. He is the lore guy. He also said that he was paid very low for the work he did and thats fine. Much respect for him at least.

Brad also admitted in a recent interview to not even really knowing how much money has come in, and that the number on the web site probably isn't right. This is a complete clusterfuck and anyone who says otherwise either hasn't paid attention or is a giant McQuaid homer.

[Ennewi]

Yes KickStarter is the online equivalent to that claw game at the arcade. No that doesn't mean great titles can't come from it as a result. It's just very unlikely and you'd better have a shitton of tokens.

It is interesting though, the fact that the same people responsible for a game (EQ) that was notorious for being a pita, are themselves now having a pita time trying create a new game that will essentially be a pita.

It's likely that a large number of potential players have lost or will probably lose interest with Pantheon and play other games in the interim, similar to the way a lot of players gave up on EQ the first time they logged on and died. But imo the majority of them will return eventually when/if Pantheon is fleshed out, just like the majority of first-time EQ players eventually logged back on after taking an extended break because, even though it fucked with your emotions and required a lot of time and effort, eventually there were moments in EQ where all of that was worth it. Right now it's just a matter of grinding through the timesink and seeing if Pantheon will level up beyond the newbie yard or die and never get a rez.

TL;DR
Get facts. Too early for facts? Do something more productive with your time than speculating, or otherwise risk becoming what CNN was when covering the missing Malaysian Airliner -- ridiculous.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by thefloydian [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are no lights to turn on. The people on the team were all working from home, and most of them weren't getting paid shit. You really think putting together a shitty unity demo with an underpaid team of 11 people should eat through 150k in one month?

"Turn the lights on" isn't a literal thing, but yes, a team of 11 would go through $150k in no-time, even if they were grossly underpaid.

[Swish]

I donated to the kickstarter but I'm more wary of just handing over cash for something that may never get created/released... and not sold onto SOE if it gets made and has potential.

What Brad needs is an EQ nerd who won the lottery.

[thefloydian]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I donated to the kickstarter but I'm more wary of just handing over cash for something that may never get created/released... and not sold onto SOE if it gets made and has potential.

What Brad needs is an EQ nerd who won the lottery.

The only safety kickstarter provides is the media spotlight it provides. There are plenty of funded kickstarters that will never materialize.