Server Spring Cleaning

[Duckwalk]

Silly OP, don't expect to attack people's livelihood and get pleasant responses. What, you think people farm the same content for the same items for 3+ years for fun?!

[lecompte]

I'm trying to keep an open mind about the intent of the OP. I only read the first 2.4 pages before I skipped to a response so I don't know if someone said: When they do RMT ban waves, that is a lot like (exactly like) removing a significant portion of PP and items from the game.

[deadlycupcakez]

This idea completely ignores the middle class. This entire concept does. Its american politics in my elf sim noooooo! The majority of the population that plays are not FTE that grind hundreds of thousands of platinum. Nor are they brand new.

The problem with these ideas are that the effects impact only the player in the midst of their journey through Norrath.

The high end legendary item grinders will instantly begin the grind for more PPs and items again upon any economic intervention. They will quickly reacquire a stranglehold on the market and dominate the tunnel once more if not on a grander scale.

While this happens, the majority of players like myself cant transfer the mid level items we have on one character to an alt that we might want to play instead. My moneys gone (that in mid game comes exponentially slower than it does 50+) and my items are restricted that I probably wanted to recycle and use to level up an alt after I looted my first raid item drop.

And then there are the new players who are affected by this minimally to none.

Maybe its my personal ties to the issue... or just that i dont think using a big brother hand to guide the market into "fairness" or "more classic" will work in any scenario. especially since the (as stated above) timeline here far outstretches that of live and the preventative measures were not put in place beforehand.

[Bill Tetley]

Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The high end legendary item grinders will instantly begin the grind for more PPs and items again upon any economic intervention. They will quickly reacquire a stranglehold on the market and dominate the tunnel once more if not on a grander scale.

Who are these mysterious fat cats the control the market? Do people really think there is a handful of players that farm all the high end items and lock down the camps to themselves 24/7 so they can set the prices?

[Vlak]

Originally Posted by deadlycupcakez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This idea completely ignores the middle class. This entire concept does. Its american politics in my elf sim noooooo! The majority of the population that plays are not FTE that grind hundreds of thousands of platinum. Nor are they brand new.

The problem with these ideas are that the effects impact only the player in the midst of their journey through Norrath.

The high end legendary item grinders will instantly begin the grind for more PPs and items again upon any economic intervention. They will quickly reacquire a stranglehold on the market and dominate the tunnel once more if not on a grander scale.

While this happens, the majority of players like myself cant transfer the mid level items we have on one character to an alt that we might want to play instead. My moneys gone (that in mid game comes exponentially slower than it does 50+) and my items are restricted that I probably wanted to recycle and use to level up an alt after I looted my first raid item drop.

And then there are the new players who are affected by this minimally to none.

Maybe its my personal ties to the issue... or just that i dont think using a big brother hand to guide the market into "fairness" or "more classic" will work in any scenario. especially since the (as stated above) timeline here far outstretches that of live and the preventative measures were not put in place beforehand.

While I'm usually more on the side of getting that big brother intervention in the real world (higher taxes on capital gains for under 65, dammit!), for the EQ economy, Cupcakez has a point. Those with time to play and grind will do so once again despite intervention. Those who don't are thus screwed, and I liked the point here about the mid-level characters (the "average player"). Especially valid given the number of people I see talking about switching gear from one character to another because they want to change mains.

Honestly, if things being too expensive is the issue, all you have to do is wait. With an infinite supply of platinum and items, supply should outstrip demand. Even if it doesn't and EC traders buy up cheap sells to resell at profit to keep prices up, the buyer has the option to try for the camp themselves. Barring that, farming plat. Barring that, not giving a flying rat turd about that item.

So "consumers" have options here. Intervention from on high would solve nothing, merely complicate things. While I applaud the thinking of the greater good, the methods suggested by OP would not work.

For the sake of argument, how about a plat-cap? Each character can only hold up to X amount of platinum on their bank/person. Would force prices lower to keep them accessible and limit the supply of platinum coming into the EQonomy.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Vlak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I'm usually more on the side of getting that big brother intervention in the real world (higher taxes on capital gains for under 65, dammit!), for the EQ economy, Cupcakez has a point. Those with time to play and grind will do so once again despite intervention. Those who don't are thus screwed, and I liked the point here about the mid-level characters (the "average player"). Especially valid given the number of people I see talking about switching gear from one character to another because they want to change mains.

Honestly, if things being too expensive is the issue, all you have to do is wait. With an infinite supply of platinum and items, supply should outstrip demand. Even if it doesn't and EC traders buy up cheap sells to resell at profit to keep prices up, the buyer has the option to try for the camp themselves. Barring that, farming plat. Barring that, not giving a flying rat turd about that item.

So "consumers" have options here. Intervention from on high would solve nothing, merely complicate things. While I applaud the thinking of the greater good, the methods suggested by OP would not work.

For the sake of argument, how about a plat-cap? Each character can only hold up to X amount of platinum on their bank/person. Would force prices lower to keep them accessible and limit the supply of platinum coming into the EQonomy.

Prices aren't going to come down over time here, people are set on what items should sell for, regardless of total supply or demand of that item. The FBSS has been selling for 10-12k for 5 years, because people KNOW it's worth 10k. It doesn't matter that there are half a million of them on the server by now.

No intervention is needed by the staff, the community needs to shame and avoid EC gougers/EC flippers/tunnel rats whatever you want to call them. They are the people that keep prices high because even if there are enough FBSSs floating around to justify them selling for 4k, those guys will snag them all up and auction them for 10k.

[cries4hardcore]

[QUOTE=Vlak;1407921]While I'm usually more on the side of getting that big brother intervention in the real world (higher taxes on capital gains for under 65, dammit!),
Ew. We get taxed enough thank you. The people makin more than 65,150k,250k, are not the ones not pulling their weight. Billionaires and corps get the tax breaks... So sick of paying fucking 38 percent in taxes so lazy people can hit up jack in the box( now accepting ebt).

[Gadwen]

All of these suggestions would likely just make it harder for new players. People with a ton of plat aren't going to cry about losing a few % because they had to convert it into gems, and then they are just going to charge you 5x as much for fungis.

[deadlycupcakez]

well unfortunately they eventually turned into RMTers... so a lot are gone but why do you think the raiding policy is what it is... bc yes. guilds and on smaller scales groups and trio/duo's do that.

[Rararboker]

Communist.