Recent banning of accounts - Page 4

greenblze420 · #1 03-24-2014, 03:05 PM

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is that your op? no its a quote down the line jfc your a idiot

sulpher01 · #2 03-24-2014, 03:08 PM

First this thread has butthurt written all over it... second, Xasten just shot down your argument in flames. The end.

slo1506 · #3 03-24-2014, 03:11 PM

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is that your op? no its a quote down the line jfc your a idiot

Look at my original post, and read the end of it. Just read it. Then see who is being stupid.

Rhambuk · #4 03-24-2014, 03:00 PM

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hatelore · #5 03-24-2014, 03:09 PM

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Lol /thread. Officespace one made me die of laughter. Hahha

Frieza_Prexus · #6 03-24-2014, 03:01 PM

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At worst, Sony has a civil claim against P99 for infringement which they have, thus far, chosen not to pursue. In fact, there's more than a few murmurs that Sony and P99 have an "understanding", part of which is the active policing of RMT. You're absolutely right that P99 does not own the game, and that they cannot modify, control, and distribute copyrighted files without potential penalty. However, they do own the server which your connecting to, and it is more than appropriate for them to cut off access for people they deem unfit.

The moral and ethical justifications for disallowing RMT are largely irrelevant. It's against the rules, and if you want to play here, then don't do it here.

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Is this server legal?

Yes it is legal, because A) We do not distribute copyrighted files, B) We do not charge people to play, therefor we are not making any sort of money or profit off of the intellectual property of SOE, and C) SOE Grants, in their user agreement, a license to utilize Everquest names and art, to all accounts in good standing:

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"SOE hereby grants to each EverQuest account subscriber that is in good standing and with the grant automatically revoked as of the moment that the subscriber�s account is no longer in good standing (an "EQ Subscriber"), a limited, personal, nonexclusive, nontransferable, nonassignable and fully revocable license to use (a) the EverQuest name, and (b) trademarks and copyrighted material from EverQuest including NPC names and images, diety and monster names and images, geographical names, item names and images, character names and images, background art, and screenshots containing any of the foregoing�"

Some say that it is not legal due to the following clause in the user agreement:

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9. You may not use any third party software to modify the Software to change Game play. You may not create, facilitate, host, link to or provide any other means through which the Game may be played by others, such as through server emulators. You may not take any action which imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure. You may not buy, sell or auction (or host or facilitate the ability to allow others to buy, sell or auction) any Game characters, items, coin or copyrighted material.

However, statements like these in a user agreement do not constitute legality, they merely serve as a guideline that if broken can terminate your usage of their services.

slo1506 · #7 03-24-2014, 03:05 PM

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At worst, Sony has a civil claim against P99 for infringement which they have, thus far, chosen not to pursue. In fact, there's more than a few murmurs that Sony and P99 have an "understanding", part of which is the active policing of RMT. You're absolutely right that P99 does not own the game, and that they cannot modify, control, and distribute copyrighted files without potential penalty. However, they do own the server which your connecting to, and it is more than appropriate for them to cut off access for people they deem unfit.

The moral and ethical justifications for disallowing RMT are largely irrelevant. It's against the rules, and if you want to play here, then don't do it here.

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That is all bogus propaganda, It is copyright infringement. They have made it EXACTLY how it used to be, which was copyrighted... Think for yourselves people come on.

Frieza_Prexus · #8 03-24-2014, 03:12 PM

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That is all bogus propaganda, It is copyright infringement. They have made it EXACTLY how it used to be, which was copyrighted... Think for yourselves people come on.

Sure, the factors for potential infringement are certainly there, but the question as to whether or not the potential infringement is actually actionable is far from settled. Also, Sony is well aware of P99, and Smedley has even commented on it. They've obviously not pursued it, and there's a strong chance they've reached an understanding for P99 to peacefully exist with Sony's implied consent.

Again, the justifications for why RMT is disallowed here are largely irrelevant. If you want to connect to their server, don't do it.

slo1506 · #9 03-24-2014, 03:14 PM

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Sure, the factors for potential infringement are certainly there, but the question as to whether or not the potential infringement is actually actionable is far from settled. Also, Sony is well aware of P99, and Smedley has even commented on it. They've obviously not pursued it, and there's a strong chance they've reached an understanding for P99 to peacefully exist with Sony's implied consent.

Again, the justifications for why RMT is disallowed here are largely irrelevant. If you want to connect to their server, don't do it.

You sir, are at least objective in your post. I appreciate that, and your very correct. I'm just saying they allowed it previously and now are banning people for it? They need to retroactively take back the bans to the accounts with which this was done from when it was legal.

slo1506 · #10 03-24-2014, 03:16 PM

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You sir, are at least objective in your post. I appreciate that, and your very correct. I'm just saying they allowed it previously and now are banning people for it? They need to retroactively take back the bans to the accounts with which this was done from when it was legal.

You're** shit i'm gonna get reamed for that punctuation after correcting someone earlier haha!