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[Nirgon]

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You think ya'll cute puttin' this in ya'll's sigs?

[Kergan]

People throw around the word alliance way too easily. Azrael and Nihilum go after each other with borderline irrational levels of disdain. There is and will never be any form of alliance, what fun would that be?

99% of my guild would disagree with me here, but I honestly would have rather seen Azrael get the dragon over RD. Ideally (for us) we'd have taken out Sev while Azrael recovered from the initial loss and before they regrouped and forced us out. The PVP seems somewhat hollow to me when we're fighting over something and neither of us gets it because we let a third group walk up and take it uncontested. We don't need jack shit from that dragon, that isn't the point. I don't know if Azrael even needs anything from that dragon but I doubt it.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People throw around the word alliance way too easily. Azrael and Nihilum go after each other with borderline irrational levels of disdain. There is and will never be any form of alliance, what fun would that be?

99% of my guild would disagree with me here, but I honestly would have rather seen Azrael get the dragon over RD. Ideally (for us) we'd have taken out Sev while Azrael recovered from the initial loss and before they regrouped and forced us out. The PVP seems somewhat hollow to me when we're fighting over something and neither of us gets it because we let a third group walk up and take it uncontested. We don't need jack shit from that dragon, that isn't the point. I don't know if Azrael even needs anything from that dragon but I doubt it.

And that one sentence is why people vehemently hate Nihilum on this server. They farm dragons they don't need to deny fun and progression to other people on this server which in turn, moves people to either app nihilum or quit the game, and they do it in the name of "pvp" when in effect doing so really just kills competition. They would log on @ 4am to kill a Talendor so someone doesn't get an orb of tishan, rather than let other people have fun and go for it. Shrug.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that one sentence is why people vehemently hate Nihilum on this server. They farm dragons they don't need to deny fun and progression to other people on this server which in turn, moves people to either app nihilum or quit the game, and they do it in the name of "pvp" when in effect doing so really just kills competition. They would log on @ 4am to kill a Talendor so someone doesn't get an orb of tishan, rather than let other people have fun and go for it. Shrug.

There are literally hundreds of players on blue who will never see an end game raid but still enjoy themselves (and don't whine about it), what about playing on R99 entitles you to dragon loots?

You act like the crap drops from dragons like Talendor are useful to RD, but they aren't. The same stuff useful to you guys still has use to us, like the scales, bracers, COFs and shields. I have yet to see a dragon hero bracer go to the guild bank in 6 months of raiding. I've yet to see a dragon shield go to the bank either, let alone a CoF. Even RBBs are awarded most the time and those that make it to the bank are instantly purchased for alts. We have constant new recruits, the burn out factor is very high on this server. So please for a minute stop acting like we're just destroying all this shit. We need it as much as you do. The vast majority of rots/banked items fit into two categories. One is total garbage (spined dragon claws, etc). The other is VP weapons (keyed zone, hard key access). I don't see you advocating for us to just leave VP up for people because you know that's insane. The fact of the matter is Talendor drops more useful loots to us than any VP dragon not named Phara Dar/Druusk.

It's a big wall of text, but I'm just getting a little sick of you playing the little engine that could card. Like if RD crumbles the server will circle the drain. You're trying to use sympathy to get loot just like Nihilum and Azrael are trying to use force. Honestly between you and I, I was one of the more vocal supporters of RD within our ranks. I was warned but chose to wait and form my own opinion.

Opinion formed.

[Nirgon]

I blame the guy awarding full DKP for continuing to show up to said not needed dragon.

But hey, that's me.

And when he emerges from his tomb on Easter Sunday, ya'll're done.

[heartbrand]

Actually, your analogy is awful, because blue has an enforced mob rotation which actually ensures everyone WILL see the end game. It also had variance and multiple guilds, which meant even during TMO dominance, it wasn't 100/0 on raid mobs. People would stick it out because they knew they still had a chance @ character progression, albeit a slower one.

Everything else you write is just lol. I played in the top guild on my server on Xegony. No one had the same drive to kill shit for minimal progression that exists on this server, or blue99 for that matter. Had you told us back then on Live to log on to cock block Talendor @ 4am from the Asian guild, people would have cracked up. No one would have cared. But here, it's a matter of life or death to get that RBB for your 17th alt. It's just a different mentality that I would argue is limited to p99 which seems to attract power gamers unseen in any other MMO.

Everything else you wrote is just blah. Newsflash, the server is already circling the drain, it's a pvp server with 80 people on it prime time, that very likely might be shut off soon. No one is using sympathy to get loot, we showed up and fought for dragons. Do I think the server would be worse off if RD went away? Absolutely. Do I think the same 50 /play committed people would log? Yup. RD has no impact on Nihilum, because core Nihilum members don't care if Velious is contested, if there's PVP or not, they just want to log into Velious, slay dragons to deck out their chars on a naked server, and then I guess retire and link their wiki magelo? Not sure tbqh. But for those of us genuinely interested in a fun exciting server, then yes, I would argue RD matters a great deal.

On live, uber guilds were incredibly selective with their members. People like Qazzaz / Devastation / Lokii / Maximillien, etc., etc., would never have gotten in. Reputation mattered. On red99 it doesn't. There's nothing "elite" about being in a top guild here. There's no loyalties, etc. When you made it into a top guild on live, it meant something, at least "something" within the context of a video game. You could be a top tier cleric but if you were a faggot, you weren't getting in. Being a faggot doesn't matter on Red99. I mean for crying out loud, Maximilien brags about craigslist bombing people on the forums, was perma banned, and he's a member of Nihilum. I could say the same about Azrael members as well. So cut the crap about "deserving" and "earning" and all this other stuff. P99 is a strange community with almost zero resemblance of what EQ actually was like. It's a numbers game pure and simple on a server with almost no pop.

[Kergan]

Maybe if we just renamed Nihilum every time we hit 51% turnover in the regular raid force we could dispense with this "farming shit for your 17th alt" nonsense. You've stated in several posts how hardly anyone that was in Nihilum in the early days is still around. Aside from a core group of about 5-10 people the rest is in constant churn. We have guild officers who haven't even been around on the server for a year.

And if my blue analogy was bad, your live analogy was worse. I don't remember any live servers stuck on Kunark for two years, knowing there was one single expansion left. Had you known in your top guild on Xegony that the dragon dropped BiS items that they'll never replace you'd be up at 4AM killing that shit. Or if you wouldn't, someone would and you wouldn't be the top guild anymore.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe if we just renamed Nihilum every time we hit 51% turnover in the regular raid force we could dispense with this "farming shit for your 17th alt" nonsense. You've stated in several posts how hardly anyone that was in Nihilum in the early days is still around. Aside from a core group of about 5-10 people the rest is in constant churn. We have guild officers who haven't even been around on the server for a year.

And if my blue analogy was bad, your live analogy was worse. I don't remember any live servers stuck on Kunark for two years, knowing there was one single expansion left. Had you known in your top guild on Xegony that the dragon dropped BiS items that they'll never replace you'd be up at 4AM killing that shit. Or if you wouldn't, someone would and you wouldn't be the top guild anymore.

God damn this guy blows.

[hagard]

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God damn this guy blows men.

couldn't agree more

[Kergan]

Well you can't really blow a chick can you?