I'd just like to point something out to Azrael

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Twainz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually per the rules, you can call LnS even if you don't die.

Did I actually say this somewhere? If so, please let me know, because its stupid as shit and needs to be changed.

[Twainz]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did I actually say this somewhere? If so, please let me know, because its stupid as shit and needs to be changed.

No idea bro. That is what was explained to me and I've let people do it. I honestly haven't read the update because I don't usually do anything that could be considered griefing. I got my griefing out on TZ with Macroquest + DA Cleric Trainz.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Twainz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No idea bro. That is what was explained to me and I've let people do it. I honestly haven't read the update because I don't usually do anything that could be considered griefing. I got my griefing out on TZ with Macroquest + DA Cleric Trainz.

Ok, ty. There's nothing wrong with letting someone do that (LnS without YT), it's actually a real nice thing to do, but I'd say if there was no YT there's no obligation to let them LnS. Too easily abused.

If I stated otherwise in the past and confused people, my apologies (and please point this out to me so I can go nuke the post stating that).

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, ty. There's nothing wrong with letting someone do that (LnS without YT), it's actually a real nice thing to do, but I'd say if there was no YT there's no obligation to let them LnS. Too easily abused.

If I stated otherwise in the past and confused people, my apologies (and please point this out to me so I can go nuke the post stating that).

What about with Guild LnS?

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about with Guild LnS?

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

[Twainz]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

Rangers so good.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

No, what I mean is, in that situation, as long as SOME YT has gone off, can you CR / LnS the entire guild, including those who died to PVE?

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, what I mean is, in that situation, as long as SOME YT has gone off, can you CR / LnS the entire guild, including those who died to PVE?

Yes absolutely.

[lite]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like if you die to a raid mob, come back and there is another force there waiting for you?

I'd say in order to stay consistent with the rules, the opposing force wouldn't be obligated to let you LnS until at least 1 YT has gone off. So if you're in this situation, have your force send a ranger to eat the YT death, then call LnS.

What about if people camped out and are loading back in from the wipe ? They are allowed to LNS and res up the fallen ?

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What about if people camped out and are loading back in from the wipe ? They are allowed to LNS and res up the fallen ?

After a guild LnS call? I don't see why not. I think the whole point of LnS is to get people to their bodies and get them out as quickly as possible so everyone can continue playing. As long as they are not engaging in PvP and are actively trying to make the LnS move faster, I don't see a problem with it.