Ogre Shaman V Troll Shaman in velious

[Ames who?]

Originally Posted by Galacticus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its all about landing malo and slow before you die. Usually you torpor yourself at full hp then pull with slow so you are already healing when your getting hit.

Mobs can stun you with normal hits and quad. Depending on the mob and your hp, you might be able to only get one or two casts off to slow it before you are dead.

Torpor only keeps you alive if its slowed.

I really think I'm set on ogre. WW Wyverns and Lozidal are pretty much my end-game goals because I do not plan on doing any type of raiding beyond what I need for my epic.

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[Azure]

lol

[dethbringre]

Iksars are coolest

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Galacticus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its all about landing malo and slow before you die. Usually you torpor yourself at full hp then pull with slow so you are already healing when your getting hit.

Mobs can stun you with normal hits and quad. Depending on the mob and your hp, you might be able to only get one or two casts off to slow it before you are dead.

Torpor only keeps you alive if its slowed.

Gotcha, that makes sense. So an Ogre is likely to live long enough to get a second slow off if the initial slow gets resisted, correct?

[Kergan]

Ogre frontal stun immunity is the only ability that can't be mitigated or replaced with spells/items. For a true min/maxer you should be an ogre for all classes they can be.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Obwin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Troll better for leveling. Ogre best for min/max once you are 60 with torpor. Trolls are so much easier to level, regen really makes a huge difference if you are leveling untwined from 24-59.

Also trolls for superior looks.

If endgame soloing is your only consideration ogre is the easy choice.

I'd disagree with that based on the extra exp penalty for trolls alone. A troll might be better until like level 14 or something. I guess on this server now that takes 3-4 weeks so maybe it is worth it.

[JayN]

corner casting ogre shaman ftw

[Obwin]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd disagree with that based on the extra exp penalty for trolls alone. A troll might be better until like level 14 or something. I guess on this server now that takes 3-4 weeks so maybe it is worth it.

Double the regen is definitely worth the 5% extra penalty, speeds up the pace you can kill mobs quite significantly.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone playing either race is automatically uncool.

+9001 internets to Faerie for this obvious observation.

Ogres and Trolls are bad (Tm) and worship heathen gods.