recharging and duck spell canceling - Page 4

Hollywood · #1 02-21-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh and SoulFire... Please make that Paladin only clickable. People buying MQs for non paladin is so unclassic it's stupid.

For a server that makes a big deal about what conveniences it allows despite being not classic, the fact that MQ allowed is strikingly bad.

Did they not stop and think how negative MQ was in the past, and how even worse it would be here?

MQ and recharge is not kept in because it's 'classic,' it's kept in because it caters to the wants and needs of the top voices on the server, which just happen to be the greedy exploiters and guilds.

flahling · #2 02-20-2014, 02:30 AM

Mac as Tecmos said they dont use clickies. Not everyone has killed CT to have bags of strings because we arent on the red trying to push a nerf to a server we dont play. Its okay maybe someone will roll a new char and you can grief him with a few fungi alts or kill CT again for more strings. Let us "blubies be carebeared." Ever think you are part of reds pop issues?
Endrant /mad off

triad · #3 02-20-2014, 02:59 AM

question whats the big deal with ducking stopping casts?

baalzy · #4 02-20-2014, 03:07 AM

It's incredibly useful. Start casting the wrong spell? Duck and immediately cast a new spell. In classic only getting stunned would stop your cast early.

Course the other side of it would be if duck-casting doesn't insta-cancel then you should be able to sit and med through a cast and stand at the last second, letting you hit a tick of mana while casting CH, for example.

Faerie · #5 02-20-2014, 05:45 AM

It would be great if there was more consistency between the two servers. Bluebies getting to duck interrupt when the rest of us don't is pretty lame.

Daldaen · #6 02-20-2014, 10:33 AM

The selling of SoulFire MQs is largely what bothers me about it. And it was specifically nerfed during Velious so only paladins could use. I haven't seen Lucan up in awhile due to what I assume is people farming to MQ or to use on their raids or solo challenges. The Brother Hayle shout calls out a non paladin 90%+ of the time and that is certainly not classic.

It's a debate of classic environment (minimal use of these clickies and recharges), VS classic mechanics (MQing and recharging no problems). Which do we care about more... That needs to be decided by the staff and really it's pretty irrelevant what we think.

They have gone both ways. See pet tank changes due to pre Kunark PoSky / see Ivandyrs hoops. And see recharges being in and MQs being in.

Is it a classic FEEL to not see people pet tank PoSky or Hoop down bosses, yes
Is it a classic MECHANIC no.
Is it a classic FEEL to see level 1 rogues and clerics with epics, no.
Is it a classic MECHANIC that quests can be MQed at any level only checking faction, yes.

Tecmos Deception · #7 02-20-2014, 10:40 AM

You acknowledge it is the impossible issue of classic mechanics v. classic experience and that it is the devs' decision to make, but not before arguing "NOT CLASSIC" and that a Velious change should go in now because you dislike seeing level 30-something SK's getting a soulfire! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Daldaen · #8 02-20-2014, 11:38 AM

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You acknowledge it is the impossible issue of classic mechanics v. classic experience and that it is the devs' decision to make, but not before arguing "NOT CLASSIC" and that a Velious change should go in now because you dislike seeing level 30-something SK's getting a soulfire! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious changes should go in now, regardless of this thread and I'm sure you could find me posting months ago about this.

They fixed Classic/Kunark content that was broken, and just so happened to finally get released during Velious. The time (number of month) to their release is all that should matter. Not where they fell in the timeline (Velious era). It didn't really add much content, just fixed stuff they acknowledged was broken... Iksar armor is an exception to that, but I feel bad for iksar tanks and shamans. Their bis gear is so bad I feel for them.

I agree it's the devs choice but I can still think SoulFires are absolutely stupid on non-paladins. Nothing will change that til they finally fix it I think that was around Velious $$$.

Erati · #9 02-20-2014, 11:54 AM

cant u recharge items on EQ live right now like we do on P99?

as in you ve always been able to recharge even if it wasnt totally forseen by original devs?

Daldaen · #10 02-20-2014, 12:05 PM

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cant u recharge items on EQ live right now like we do on P99?

as in you ve always been able to recharge even if it wasnt totally forseen by original devs?

Negative. Vendor recharge was fixed in 2004/2005ish. Took devs that long to decide it was bad for the game. Though not before adding ridiculously high sell-backs for stuff like fungus beast glands (10 charge instant snare) from fungus grove beast cycle, darkness rods (10 charge darkness snare) from warrens, Rez stick (10 charge Rez) from Vox; as well as removing that from game.

But it did last through PoP. So for all intents and purposes of this server, it should remain as a classic mechanic. I imagine that if devs see it as an issue they will resolve it like Ivandyrs hoops were. Make the reward more rare, impossible to recharge and decrease benefit somehow (lifetaps more resist able)

There are a few Velious items I hope it sticks around for. But if it doesn't i can live with that too.