Elder Scrolls Online

[Nips]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zenimax stated they have not spent 200m on the game

I don't think 200m is completely implausible if you consider that it took 150 million to make SWG. I wonder why it costs so much to make these mmorpgs? I found a few different sources (idk about reliability), but they claim the cost to produce skyrim was only 5-15 million... crazy. Seems so risky to make these mmorpgs, I hope some of these companies are actually profitable with these things otherwise it seems like it'll be a dying genre if you consider the lack of success in the mmorpg world for like the last... whenever WoW came out.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by Nips [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think 200m is completely implausible if you consider that it took 150 million to make SWG.

How much of that you think is licensing?

[Thugnuts]

I'm not a huge ES guy, but I ran around in Morrowind and Oblivion a couple years ago, just to have a peak. The one thing I thought to myself the entire time was "Gee, this would be better if it was multiplayer."

As for subs model for MMO, it's the best option. F2P/store games are all shit in my experience. I want to win by playing the game and defeating the mechanics in cooperation with other human beings, not by whipping out my fucking VISA card whenever I need an item upgrade.

That said, I do know one gamer who is adamant about never paying a subscription for a game he bought retail. He says that $15/month or whatever for unlimited play is greedy, but has no problem dropping $120 a week on booze and cigarettes.

[Millburn]

This game is going to hold peoples interest for 3 months max. About 6 months out it's going to start to go F2P. Calling it now.

[Shaakglith12194]

TESO won't fail because of the subscription model, it will fail because it's a bad game. Played a ridiculous amount of Morrowind and Oblivion (like 700-1100 hours, somewhere in that realm), and now I'm playing Skyrim...loved all those games. All they had to do was make Elder Scrolls 6 and allow co-op into each person's personal game world. But noooooooo, they have to fix what ain't broke. Won't even go into why it's a bad game. Agree with previous posters that f2p games are nowhere near as good as the subscription games, so the subscription won't matter because if it's a good game, people will pay it. I hear a lot of people who say that the combat is like Skyrim's, but the only similarity I saw was that Skyrim's combat was easier than the previous entries in the series. Kind of felt more like Age of Blownan, except with all the pvp when that game released, that game was actually fun. I get hooked on TES games, but this one was boooooooooring. Don't think I'll get invited to any more of the beta test since I gave some pretty negative feedback (it was constructive) on their beta survey. How the hell do you make the TES world boring? Like, how hard do you have to try to make that happen?

This game could kill the series. F2P in 6 months, a year max. Good job, Zenimax Online.

[Swish]

Tell me more about how WoW failed because it wasn't enough like WC3? So what if you played Morrowind and all the old games? For some kids out there, ESO might be their first MMORPG and they'll have nothing to base it against. We're old players, washed up, nobody tends to give a shit about us anymore. You can adapt, or play P99 until you die [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyway, I'd rather pay in to ESO and see what its like than give EA money for stupid shit on BF4 with their "premium".

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're old players, washed up, nobody tends to give a shit about us anymore. You can adapt, or play P99 until you die [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No more MMOs made for us [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[MrSparkle001]

ESO is a 1st person MMO. That alone sells it for me. Yes you can play in 3rd person and in PvP you probably want to, but it has that terrible over-the-shoulder 3rd person view from Skyrim.

It's not trying to be like WoW and I like that. I'm burned out on WoW-style MMOs.

[Prismaticshop]

forecasting EQ's failure based on alpha and beta experiences would have been legitimate. Yet it was a success.

Give ESO a go the first 3 months then judge.

[Bamz4l]

sounds like yet another mmo that is going to have everyone sitting at end-game in a couple months, yet they don't even have plans for the end-game yet?? failure