150k+ for torpor?...lol

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now, what do they do? They buy Torpor for 100k and sell it for 105k. Then that 105k torpor gets bought and sold for 110k...you get the picture? I'm sure it's not hard to grasp.

So again, the moral of the story, especially for people who don't want to grind to farm, is to go get the spell directly. Wtf people? You're probably the same ones who complain about people farming items to sell to make plat, but you won't go out there and get the items yourself... i.e. you're helping create the high prices by increasing demand but not increasing supply.

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand some of you stating to "just got get it yourself." That's not the point he is trying to make. The point is this: Torpor was going for 50k or less, less than 12 months ago...even 50k was considered high! Now it's 150k...it's disgusting, IMO.

Bullshit alert! I paid 90k a year ago and like I said it took me a month to even find a seller. People were trying to tell me 120k+ back then.

There's more plat in the economy now. Prices of items have gone up in a year. That's how the economy works.

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Torpor was NEVER worth more than a fungi until a few months ago.

Around the time I paid 90k for Torpor, Fungis were about 65k. You either have an even shittier memory than I do, or you have some sort of agenda.

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullshit alert! I paid 90k a year ago and like I said it took me a month to even find a seller. People were trying to tell me 120k+ back then.

He said bullshit alert. Search is a wonderful thing. Took me 1 minute to find this link:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ghlight=torpor

Apparently Torpor was going for 40k less than a year ago, all the time back then, according to a comment.

[Asap]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People were trying to tell me 120k+ back then.
You either have an even shittier memory than I do

Exactly 1 year ago, posted by Byrjun

Originally Posted by Byrjun View Post
Fyi, this guy is trying to get 70k for a spell. It sells for 40k all the time lately (including twice today at least).

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bullshit alert! I paid 90k a year ago and like I said it took me a month to even find a seller. People were trying to tell me 120k+ back then.

There's more plat in the economy now. Prices of items have gone up in a year. That's how the economy works.



Around the time I paid 90k for Torpor, Fungis were about 65k. You either have an even shittier memory than I do, or you have some sort of agenda.

False, I made my shaman in late July and torpor was still only at 30 to 35k. Anyways,you can't just group and get the spell anymore because its no longer a need before greed game, everybody rolls on class specific spells when they aren't said class. If you're someone who can't dedicate 6 to 8 or more hours a day to play the game the chances of gettingor making a group for crypt is even less.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

everybody rolls on class specific spells when they aren't said class. If you're someone who can't dedicate 6 to 8 or more hours a day to play the game the chances of gettingor making a group for crypt is even less.

Greed looting is the only way to be fair to everyone involved, all the time.

And lol at thinking you need to play the game like a second job in order to get a crypt group.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Greed looting is the only way to be fair to everyone involved, all the time.

And lol at thinking you need to play the game like a second job in order to get a crypt group.

Not fair when it's a spell, suppose im just far too classic in my mindset for this server.

When I was actively LFG in old seb, on either my cleric, my shaman, or my rogue playing the game like it's a second job to get into a crypt group was the only way. I've pushed more than 6 55+ through seb during varying times since kunark has been out and it's changed a bit in there. Mind you, my information may be a bit old compared to now, last time I LFGed for seb was probably more than a few months ago; But it was 95% of the time guild groups that were hounding crypt all the time.

[Polyphemous]

Originally Posted by skorge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand some of you stating to "just got get it yourself." That's not the point he is trying to make. The point is this: Torpor was going for 50k or less, less than 12 months ago...even 50k was considered high! Now it's 150k...it's disgusting, IMO.

Server's economy is so far out of whack it's retarded and NEEDS to be addressed...for starters, it's a shame that the devs stopped allowing account sells/trades to go on, this was a nice plat sink.

Velious was launched in less than a year after Kunark was released in classic EQ. On P99, Kunark has been out now, for what 3 years with no Velious? What blows my mind is the devs never took any precautions to adjust the server's economy/market to make up for this HUGE, UNREALISTIC gap between expansions.

The least they could have done was make legendary items MUCH rarer - items such as the fungi tunic, for example. Remember when they were ultra rare here? It should have stayed that way. I actually suggested this a long time ago - but nope.

You can't even compare classic server economy vs project 1999's - it's that bad. My only thought process is that maybe the devs think the economy is such a small part of rebuilding that classic EQ experience that they simply did not think about the server's economy/market?

I don't think you understand economics or classic EQ inflation. Huge amounts of inflation is classic, and has nothing whatsoever to do with expansions unless there was some expansion where effective money sinks were added. People who have been playing for a long time build up huge cash reserves, then give it to other players for stuff they want, and the cycle continues, with more cash being built up the more mobs are killed and the more stuff is vendored.

What does changing drop rates on fungi have to do with anything? It is selling for 100k if you can even find it for sale.

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Supply doesn't change.
Demand doesn't change.
Greed changes.

You are 0 for 3.

Yes, supply and demand do change. This is why it is often referred to as a supply and demand curve rather than a supply and demand point in space.

Greed doesn't change, it has been pretty much constant throughout all of recorded human history.

[Man0warr]

Yeah but then everyone remember that Shamans are OP as shit in Velious and started up shaman alts - so fungi and torpor prices shot up.

[rollin5k]

Its just supply and demand, how can you even complain about this. i play a shaman and i understand this pricing