Why a server wipe or a new server would be a good thing

[Tradesonred]

Sad part is i dont think any of this will matter, will be ignored, people like something witty will troll this thread with no consequences, but im glad i made my peace with always trying to suggest stuff you dont even know if devs read or what. Its out there, its done, voila.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sad part is i dont think any of this will matter, will be ignored, people like something witty will troll this thread with no consequences, but im glad i made my peace with always trying to suggest stuff you dont even know if devs read or what. Its out there, its done, voila.

None of it matters because the player base here have no brians.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

None of it matters because the player base here have no brians.

Thats why the new blood is needed but *shrug*

[Darksinga]

Server wipe makes dev lose credibility. Wtb teams with an end game merge

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server wipe makes dev lose credibility. Wtb teams with an end game merge

This is probably the best outcome. Launch teams, then have Red merge with teams on the condition that all red chars are naked. At the same time maybe offer blue naked char copy as well.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Darksinga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Server wipe makes dev lose credibility. Wtb teams with an end game merge

Well theyre saving face by not wiping, not sure if id call that keeping credibility. They dont have to admit makin mistakes, but it means red will just die a slow miserable death because it was started in such a bad way.

Since communication is so poor, we dont know if they know they made mistakes, but dont have the time to try to fix em so they bandaid the mess with PnP, or they dont realize they made mistakes and actually beleive this griefers ruined the server stuff, or what.

If theyd just come out and say look, we made this and this and this mistake, we fess up. But we dont have time and resources to fix the server, or this or that.

Im not even sure if thats the "Its free, so we dont owe you anything attitude" or if they think everythings going right, or what.

I should have put that in the OP, lack of communication was a big problem of red.

Of course its free and they dont own anyone anything, but you open up a MMO emu where people will invest a fuckton of time in, its just common sense to keep communication lines opened.

[Something'Witty]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sad part is i dont think any of this will matter, will be ignored, people like something witty will troll this thread with no consequences, but im glad i made my peace with always trying to suggest stuff you dont even know if devs read or what. Its out there, its done, voila.

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[Kaahbal]

Originally Posted by Kaahbal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uhm i actually like his ideas, made me really looking back 15 years to the elfs vs gnomes mass pvps in gfay, or the thrill of sneaking a troll on the boat to faywder to try and trade in gfay.

I agree that certain ppl/guilds exploiting at server launch in combination of the grind being to slow and exp loss on pvp making plugging an all time high in everquest. Also lack of contesting due to the fact that u had to grind 4 hours to regain the exp for a pvp death on level 60.

Regarding to item loot, ive seen both good and bad things come out of it, problem is alot of naked wizards and mages rollin around risking nothing, and melees have to equip shit to stand a chance, however with custom no drops, that would be resolved.

Whats the most important to remember is that population is KEY, we lack this, and no matter what path devs choose to go i hope we csn re-attain s healthy population somehow.

VZTZ had a solid 250+ pop even after 3 big wipes, all these happened where people had around the same BiS as they do on this server (-VP+Rile/Painroot/Tychus Zeksworn).

When we all started on red99 at launch, is the outcome of what we hoped for what the server is in its current form?

Current P99 red
1. Good anti-cheat - first boxes on EMU
2. Good coded 1999 everquest world (quests/mechanics)
3. Working economy

VZTZ Servers
1. Ability to 2box
2. EXP rates that made u get to a competative level without having to retire from your real life. Made focus on PVP instead of PVE with the option of occasional PVP.
3. No PVP exp loss
4. Item loot on 1.0, problem was however as i said before the naked casters rolling around everywhere risking nada.

Imagine a fresh R99
1. Working anti-cheat + p1999 server code and working economy.
2. Most exploits have been sorted during these years of R99 beta.
3. Big population + 2boxing enabled (rather log on a server with 600-1000 charachters than 50).
4. Quick EXP, making it viable for new players to get in on highend action quickly.
5. Progression style PVE content unlock, kunark straight after Innoruuk/CT/EoV dies etc, all the way up to velious.
6. Variance where 1-2 raid mobs would be around each day, always something to fight over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9No-_1cNvg

[Gustoo]

You come from the bad standpoint that the game starts at level 60 which is wrong.

Boxxing is bad. Having zero low level pop is bad.

Having no reason to pvp at low level is bad.

No 2 box, item loot enabled, slow motion leveling so people are around to level with new players.

REGARDLESS: a fresh server from the reliable P99 team would be amazing. R99 got a TERRIBLE start like...a 2 out of 10 rating for number of box destroying screwups and neglect.

A good classic server on a timeline that people could bank on would be really fun. I really miss the pure classic experience [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tassador]

i think red could have a steady pop of 90-150 but we got to get the fucking ass clowns out already.