Rogean be our PVP Savior... - Page 4

nicemace · #31 08-03-2010, 10:33 PM

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A lack of professionalism, customer service, and boxing.

i dont see any reasons stopping you from your precious pvp.

thing is, pvp server run by nilbog/rogean/whatever would end up just like the TZVZ server because you all like to say that you want a straight pvp server. but none of you actually go and form a pvp community.

what you want is the population of this server, where everyone is flagged pvp... its just not gonna happen.

Kastro · #32 08-03-2010, 10:40 PM

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i dont see any reasons stopping you from your precious pvp.

thing is, pvp server run by nilbog/rogean/whatever would end up just like the TZVZ server because you all like to say that you want a straight pvp server. but none of you actually go and form a pvp community.

what you want is the population of this server, where everyone is flagged pvp... its just not gonna happen.

Problem with VZTZ is there arent enough sheep.. and the wolves have done nothing to allow the sheep population to grow.....

The Beauty of Rallos Zek ( this is looking back) was the roles were reveresed... The PVPers were hunted... which was great... made it fun.. and if you truley wanted to PK you paid the social consequences of E-Murder... I Did it and had an absolute blast.... The thing I missed was the raiding game... and in all honesty I would trade the Ganking ect for Guild VS Guild PVP over raid mobs ... and Guild VS guild ganking... any day of the week... Guild VS Guild PVP is just unbelievably awesome... Killing some naked druid is fun... Catching someone in West Commons and Looting a Pre-nerf COs is Really fun... but fighting another guild for Naggy... CT .. Plane of Air ... ect .. and getting loot is even better...

PhelanKA · #33 08-03-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i dont see any reasons stopping you from your precious pvp.

thing is, pvp server run by nilbog/rogean/whatever would end up just like the TZVZ server because you all like to say that you want a straight pvp server. but none of you actually go and form a pvp community.

what you want is the population of this server, where everyone is flagged pvp... its just not gonna happen.

What the fuck are you talking about? Don't presume to know me or anyone else. You just end up making yourself look like a giant ass. If you had bothered to read the first page of this thread you would know that I understand the possibility of a professionally run PVP server to be a pipedream. Next time try thinking before you start typing such stupid, banal bullshit.

That being said: For all my fellow RZers, there will never be another Rallos Zek because as I said it wasn't the game that made Rallos Zek. It was the player community. It would be impossible recreate IMHO.

**Haynar** · #34 08-03-2010, 11:08 PM

Its not the PVP aspect, that makes a PVP server difficult to run. Its that the PVP servers often draw the worst of the worst on the servers. Everyone with a grudge to bear, axe to grind, etc., who want to just make life miserable for others (including those that run the server). Yes, there would be some good people. Unfortunately the ratios of good to bad, goes down drastically when those 50 bad people are all on the same server.

Haynar

Humerox · #35 08-03-2010, 11:19 PM

As retarded as it was, I had more fun - on live - playing Sullon Zek than any other server.

It was all about the rush, lol. Still remember the time I killed a level 40ish at level 12 in DC by drowning him. Fun times.

Bards charming the guards in OT and wiping out 50 plus players at a time.

And FANSY!

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P99 still rules...but if someone headed a decent PvP emu I'd play it, lol.

Kastro · #36 08-03-2010, 11:24 PM

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As retarded as it was, I had more fun - on live - playing Sullon Zek than any other server.

It was all about the rush, lol. Still remember the time I killed a level 40ish at level 12 in DC by drowning him. Fun times.

Bards charming the guards in OT and wiping out 50 plus players at a time.

And FANSY!

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P99 still rules...but if someone headed a decent PvP emu I'd play it, lol.

Best Bet might be a SUllonesq style server... Just ensure all teams have all classes..... and just police hacking... and allow 2 boxing..

Buhbuh · #37 08-04-2010, 12:08 AM

There's always bad apples in the PvP community. That was arguably part of it no matter what. I don't know about 2 boxing. I like the idea of actually having to seek out other players to join and be a part of the old experience. I think the server would see a lot more players than TZVZ ever did simply because of the stability issue. It would actually be classic this time around, which is a huge draw for the people that came and went on that old server. I think a mirror image of this PvE server with PvP enabled and RZ style would be awesome.

The only thing that actually poses a problem is the policing of it, it would be nice to not have to. If MQ preventative measures were already taken care of then there's not much else to police though. The player base usually makes the rules, because no GM's are always online. I think it'd be cool though.

The old EQ PvP community are essentially all in touch with each other in some way. We all know each other either directly via phone numbers or by just spreading the word. TZT is still going after 10 years and all the old players are still there. There's not much marketing to the whole thing, it would just take a server and the brilliant host of developers and project managers that are here.

Braelyn · #38 08-04-2010, 12:32 AM

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Its not the PVP aspect, that makes a PVP server difficult to run. Its that the PVP servers often draw the worst of the worst on the servers. Everyone with a grudge to bear, axe to grind, etc., who want to just make life miserable for others (including those that run the server). Yes, there would be some good people. Unfortunately the ratios of good to bad, goes down drastically when those 50 bad people are all on the same server.

Haynar

I'm just curious, is there any discussion at all of possibly starting a classic pvp server?

Taluvill · #39 08-04-2010, 12:41 AM

you would have to make MQ legal. You cant have it any other way, if only because its that hard to police. Sony couldnt do it.

I think it would be insanely cool, but coming back for round 2 wouldnt be as fun, as everyone would roll necro's or wizards, druids. anything that could solo and could pvp. the other idea would be to see the few friend groups of players that actually roll the SK/Cler/shaman/ect combo.

I think, in this day and age, with all the greifers around, we would be fucked.

Braelyn · #40 08-04-2010, 01:25 AM

I think following the TZ/VZ model of team pvp would help provide some stability. It's almost 1/2 pve 1/2 pvp. People can group with people on their own teams without fear, so it wouldn't necessarily be all necro's and druids. No need to allow boxing.