Luclin Models

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Jereziah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Considering dozens of people, including myself, donate to your server to help off-set your folks out of pocket expenses, I certainly hope you're kidding Nil. We deserve something a little more than a 'selfish bastard'. I myself donated money to help your cause because I respect what you folks are doing and the amount of time it's taken you, I would never take away from that. I truly love this server, enjoy the time spent here, and only wish to see it made better.

People keep saying this is 'classic everquest' and that we're adhering to the experience felt in 1999, I call BS on an epic scale Nil.

- In-game compass? Sure as shit not 1999.
- Item linking from chat? Definitely not 1999.
- Kedge open? Certainly not upon release.
- Everyone having vision so humans aren't blind in the dark? This is a completely game-altering mechanic that you've chosen to implement (and very wisely so I might add). But 100% not even close to the 1999 experience.

Please don't quote the book to us saying 'xyz can't be changed because it's not classic' when at every turn we're exposed to non-classic improvements.

Seriously, agian Some are client side issues. Such as maps and vision. You can turn the compass off yourself, slacker. And I will tell you, probably unlike Nil, to kiss my puckered brown star fish.

[Jereziah]

/shrug, I'm speaking in general to the entirety of the gaming experience. If the issues are out of your control 100% than there's nothing you can do about it. Why you feel the need to act like a complete asshat on these forums is beyond me Aeol. I apologized in a different thread when I felt people were flaming you, and clearly you don't give 2 shits.

A proper post from an admin clearly stating that these are 100% not implementable for XYZ reason, would go a long way. Verbally insulting the players who make your project a reality is self-degrading.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Jereziah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/shrug, I'm speaking in general to the entirety of the gaming experience. If the issues are out of your control 100% than there's nothing you can do about it. Why you feel the need to act like a complete asshat on these forums is beyond me Aeol. I apologized in a different thread when I felt people were flaming you, and clearly you don't give 2 shits.

A proper post from an admin clearly stating that these are 100% not implementable for XYZ reason, would go a long way. Verbally insulting the players who make your project a reality is self-degrading.

Not being an asshat. Just cause you want something change and feel you are entitled to it doesn't mean your opinion matters more than anyone elses. In general, when someone approaches me as I'm completely wrong even though I have a large say in the decisions I tell them to pucker up. Cause you'll never get any head way with me by acting as you are or expecting us to focus strictly on your issues. And as such, have a seat and get in line. But your sense of entitlement is rather annoying. So, either find a new horse to beat to death or another torch or cross to bare. Cause this one is going no where.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Jereziah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Considering dozens of people, including myself, donate to your server to help off-set your folks out of pocket expenses, I certainly hope you're kidding Nil. We deserve something a little more than a 'selfish bastard'. I myself donated money to help your cause because I respect what you folks are doing and the amount of time it's taken you, I would never take away from that. I truly love this server, enjoy the time spent here, and only wish to see it made better.

People keep saying this is 'classic everquest' and that we're adhering to the experience felt in 1999, I call BS on an epic scale Nil.

- In-game compass? Sure as shit not 1999.
- Item linking from chat? Definitely not 1999.
- Kedge open? Certainly not upon release.
- Everyone having vision so humans aren't blind in the dark? This is a completely game-altering mechanic that you've chosen to implement (and very wisely so I might add). But 100% not even close to the 1999 experience.

Please don't quote the book to us saying 'xyz can't be changed because it's not classic' when at every turn we're exposed to non-classic improvements. You folks have done AN AMAZING JOB at recreating classic everquest in 95% of it's existence. The 5% are creature comforts that you have changed deliberately to make the gameplay more fun. You haven't heard a single player complaining that they wished sense heading was back, or that maps for cities are horrible... Do you really think you'd receive a wall of anger if you enabled luclin models?

There are approximately 3 or 4 people in this thread that argued against it, that's hardly the majority here. Please, Nil, take a step back, look at what we're asking and ask yourself if a change such as this would improve the experience for more than 50% of the players on the server, if the answer is yes, shouldn't this be a no-brainer?

Speak for yourself.

I request that I be made blind again. This is a slap in the face.

I want it to be DARK again!

Note: This is 50% seriousness and 50% tongue in cheek. Please note that the developers have a subjective opinion of what classic is and should be. If you disagree with their implementation of it, make your own classic server. Speaking of which, if I could I might! I'd love to bring back the night. I'd view it as an improvement. I'm sure a few others would agree with me.

[Jereziah]

I'd like to bring this back to the original topic, which was luclin models. At present here's where we stand:

- The argument against them states they aren't classic.
- The counter to this argument lies in the fact there are plenty of non-classic things in game.

So, as stormlord so eloquently put it, tonge and cheek aside, that's where we stand.

@ Aeolwind, we'll agree to disagree. Storm is right, your view on what classic should be differs from mine, I respect that.

[guineapig]

Huzah!!!

[Danth]

I'd be all for human night blindness if only it wasn't a client-side issue. EQ doesn't feel like EQ without nights being dark.--and I play human characters.

Luclin player models are a harmless cosmetic feature which should be permitted if at all possible. I say that as someone who would never turn any of them on because I think they look stupid. Each to his own.

Danth

[Aeolwind]

Pretty much everyone has dark elf vision & all the information I've received on it is "Client side". Hence, no touchy touchy.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be all for human night blindness if only it wasn't a client-side issue. EQ doesn't feel like EQ without nights being dark.--and I play human characters.

Luclin player models are a harmless cosmetic feature which should be permitted if at all possible. I say that as someone who would never turn any of them on because I think they look stupid. Each to his own.

Danth

Tied to the expansion that we are open too. Ergo, to engage luclin models, we'd need to engage Luclin.

[Tovok]

I wonder if AA would show up as a by product of having Luclin enabled, or if the controls are more granular.

Edit: and Vah Shir =/