Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[radditsu]

I would like to see thoughts about CT to prevent the (sometimes) awful chikanery that can go on...if DT's ever get fixed.

[lazcar]

Allow each guild 1 high tier kill per week and 4 low tier kills per week.

High tier :

Vs
Ct
Inny
Trak

Low tier:
All dragons and air mobs

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the other option i can see would be a 2 hr/2 mob rule.

if you were to take ct/vs/trak:

ct - tmo kills - > fe/ib kills -> 'casual scum' kill here
trak - fe/ib kills - > tmo kills -> 'casual scum' kill here
vs - tmo kills -> fe/ib kills -> 'casual scum' kill here

in practice, I think alarti's proposal would mean more mobs overall for the 'casual scum'. but I guess this way all the targets would be open to at least 1 'casual scum' kill a month.

**edit** alarti's proposal doesn't 'lock out' any guilds. if bda wants trak/vs/ct (ie, the 'top mobs') they can still compete on those mobs.

Yaa too much rotation. That will just become a 3 guild rotation in time... then eventually a 4 guild rotation and so on.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to see thoughts about CT to prevent the (sometimes) awful chikanery that can go on...if DT's ever get fixed.

Let them happen. CT is the best raid on the server, from a competitive standpoint.

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the other option i can see would be a 2 hr/2 mob rule.

if you were to take ct/vs/trak:

ct - tmo kills - > fe/ib kills -> 'casual scum' kill here
trak - fe/ib kills - > tmo kills -> 'casual scum' kill here
vs - tmo kills -> fe/ib kills -> 'casual scum' kill here

in practice, I think alarti's proposal would mean more mobs overall for the 'casual scum'. but I guess this way all the targets would be open to at least 1 'casual scum' kill a month.

**edit** alarti's proposal doesn't 'lock out' any guilds. if bda wants trak/vs/ct (ie, the 'top mobs') they can still compete on those mobs.

Well the "casual scum" is in 90% of the cases BDA, so it would just be a 3 way rotation with BDA anyways... not any better.

[lazcar]

@alarti your compromise just makes things easier for you and fe/ib.. That is not the problem with the status quo as you both get kills. The problem is what you do to get them. If you didn't have to do that then a lot of other guilds would get kills also. The point of this isn't that because you guys poopsock and always get mobs... And not that there will be improvements you should still get all the mobs. The problem is mobs need to be spread outside of the poopsocking elite. See what happened the last two weeks? Other guilds are getting kills.. People are happy.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by lazcar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@alarti your compromise just makes things easier for you and fe/ib.. That is not the problem with the status quo as you both get kills. The problem is what you do to get them. If you didn't have to do that then a lot of other guilds would get kills also. The point of this isn't that because you guys poopsock and always get mobs... And not that there will be improvements you should still get all the mobs. The problem is mobs need to be spread outside of the poopsocking elite. See what happened the last two weeks? Other guilds are getting kills.. People are happy.

Other guilds are getting kills because 100 raids are out of the picture. How will this work when we come back? You can either make solutions for the real situation or for a fake situation.
The 2 hour rule is nothing but a thinly veiled 2 guild rotation.

Also, how does my solution not spread out mobs. Before Taken was getting 1-2 mobs a week and BDA was getting 1-2 mobs a weel

My solution gives you the potential to get 18 mobs a month without having to fight FE/IB/TMO. Do the math.

[radditsu]

Rotations..by and large, will make the high end just as stale as having alts camped out and killing stuff in 20 seconds.

What we really need is like a VERSUS system on like CT. Having more than 2 guilds in fear is just not feasible really.

1st. TMO VS FE/IB
2nd Taken VS TMO
3rd FE VS Taken
4th open
5th A-team VS TMO
6th Taken VS FE

like a basketball schedule or something, If you kill x open world dragons you get put on the sched.

Its competitive, but structured.

[Ravager]

I like the idea of weekend rotations. Every guild that wants a rotation does it on the weekends, every guild that wants to do fte competitions does that during the week. Leave VP out of the weekend rotations. It's simple and easy to remember and it means that 70% of the mobs are still FTE competitions (actually more, since VP wouldn't be rotated).

Plus this would mean that casual guilds would only have to track for 2 days. It draws a clear line between who is casual and who is 'hard core' too, and neither has to step on each other's toes with leap-frogging or poopsocks.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well the "casual scum" is in 90% of the cases BDA, so it would just be a 3 way rotation with BDA anyways... not any better.

You guys are counting out Taken without even giving them a chance. It also makes the barrier of entry on every 'casual scum' kill much, much less difficult. Would BDA take most of the 'casual scum' kills? MAYBE at first. but at least people looking to enter and get kills would be on a closer mobilization/numbers/organization level to their competition.

by the logic you guys are using, BDA is just going to get all the 'casual' targets in alartis proposal anyway, right?