Veeshan's Peak

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe there'd be less debate over who is tinfoil hatting and/or "corrupt" if there was some better communication between our server leaders and the community regarding their decision making process. I don't know if its a genuine refusal to do it or not, but something stinks.

No offense but GMs rarely have ever explained in detail everything to the players about their decisions on this server. They do not answer to us. It is odd that when calls go against a certain guild there is "legitimate concerns with management" according to you guys. However, when calls go against other guilds "Nothing is wrong with management they are all just cheaters that wear tinfoil hats!!!".

It's like watching you guys say the exact same things people in other guilds were saying before people in your guild got busted. Except then according to you fellas it was because everyone else was breaking the rules. Hows the shoe on the other foot feel ? We can have your tinfoil hat specially tailored depending on the size of your head.

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Sarius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't understand why you guys act like such children. Grow up

Ok, I'll stop. You guys win, there's no way I or anyone else can change anything. Unfortunately, 2-way communication is what a true community is based on and that element of things seems to have fallen by the wayside here in the last 48 hours.

[Funkutron5000]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, I'll stop. You guys win, there's no way I or anyone else can change anything. Unfortunately, 2-way communication is what a true community is based on and that element of things seems to have fallen by the wayside here in the last 48 hours.

Actually, a lot of us have worked for change in the last few days. See: the new raiding agreement.

And Rogean just changed the rules in VP.

Rogean 2013: Change you can believe in.

[Fountree]

Originally Posted by Funkutron5000 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, a lot of us have worked for change in the last few days. See: the new raiding agreement.

And Rogean just changed the rules in VP.

Rogean 2013: Change you can believe in.

Yes, change sponsored by FE/IB comes easy. Did you even play on this server when IB was dominating? lol

I admire your new raid agreement though, I believe TMO should have agreed to a rotation months ago but thats just me.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I admire your new raid agreement though, I believe TMO should have agreed to a rotation months ago but thats just me.

There is still time. Once you guys get reformed get involved.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The no interference policy for Veeshan's Peak has been removed. Regular raid policies now apply.

$$$$$

[Ele]

Like.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Fountree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we get nilbog to weigh in?

I have been a supporter of VP pnp for quite a while. Especially when evidence was presented for exception incidents for guides of the era.

Discussed in this thread:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=117238

guide doc

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From a bug thread posted by someone there. NOTICE the very first condition.

5.6.2 Acceptable CSRep Presence in Customer Service Limited Zones

The presence of Customer Service Representatives in Customer Service Limited Zones creates two undesired situations. First, players are more likely to ask for assistance in gameplay issues from the CS staff if a CS Rep is in the zone. Second, players are more likely to blame CS Representatives for any inconvenience they may experience if a CS Rep is in the zone. For these reasons mentioned above CS Reps must not be in Customer Service Limited Zones except under the following conditions:
•They are investigating a possible Exception Incident (Abuse, Disruption, or Exploitation) at the request of a player.
•They are investigating a possible bug at the request of a player for documentation purposes.
•They are removing a corpse from an object such as the ground, a wall, a tree, etc. according to Corpse Recovery Procedure (See 7.3 Corpse Recovery)
•They are unsticking a player stuck on the geometry (in an object, in a wall, etc). The player should be moved the minimum amount of distance necessary to unstick them from the geometry.
•They are summoning a corpse from a verified inaccessible area listed in 5.6.2.1 to a position of the player's choice within the zone.
•They are summoning a player from a verified inaccessible area listed in 5.6.2.1 in the Customer Service Limited Zone to a non-PvP area of Arena and then back to either the zone-in point of the Customer Service Limited Zone or to another player of the player's choice in the Customer Service Limited Zone.
•They are following Policy and Procedures concerning an Under the World Case. (See 7.13)

Thanks so much for doing the research and finding this. I knew I didn't remember training in VP for a reason

Falls under disruption. I'd like to see an era of legitimate raids in VP.

[Fountree]

Thanks for the reasoning Nilbog If it's classic it's classic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have been a supporter of VP pnp for quite a while. Especially when evidence was presented for exception incidents for guides of the era.

Discussed in this thread:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=117238

guide doc



Falls under disruption. I'd like to see an era of legitimate raids in VP.

Praise the players who found this information!!