Sebilis Crypt Camp

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[Teppler]

I haven't read this whole thread but there was a ruling in HS North a month or two ago where the guide/GM said, after much deliberation, that you can't camp a whole wing and that you can only do specific rooms where you can keep presence right on the spawn. Camp checks being only a courtesy call.

Why wouldn't it be the same for the Crypt?

If this isn't the case then it was bad work by that guide that day who let a BDA group just storm in and take over under the ruling that you can't claim a wing like that(even tho everything is being killed) and I'd like to request a firm ruling on the subject.

[Coolname]

sounds pretty firm to me, if your not doing all 4 rooms you aren't doing crypt

[Teppler]

Make a ruling that's consistent with the Howling Stones North camp. If you're keeping the 3 named spawns down there, is a group allowed to come in and start killing named if you're not sitting right on them?

Last GM ruling said you can't claim a wing.

[Splorf22]

I don't think this is a good ruling.

First, anyone who can solo the Hierophant (probably a 60 enchanter or shaman) can kill any crypt named. Leaving them up and AFKing to do some work around the house is just a matter of convenience. So you are going to have groups coming in and trying to lawyer 'oh, so the other spawns are up' 'well I *can* kill them, I just can't be bothered' 'summoning GM' etc.

Second, the correct rule is (as Vandy stated) if a group is doing the crypt/emperor, its an asshat move to come in and take the hierophant room. If the shaman/enchanter is already killing 1-2 named, then there is no reason not to allow a group to kill the other stuff and inherit the camp after they leave.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I haven't read this whole thread but there was a ruling in HS North a month or two ago where the guide/GM said, after much deliberation, that you can't camp a whole wing and that you can only do specific rooms where you can keep presence right on the spawn. Camp checks being only a courtesy call.

Why wouldn't it be the same for the Crypt?

If this isn't the case then it was bad work by that guide that day who let a BDA group just storm in and take over under the ruling that you can't claim a wing like that(even tho everything is being killed) and I'd like to request a firm ruling on the subject.

According to the server rules, the guide in your case ruled "correctly", while this Derubiel guy is just making shit up here. If you want to get technical on the rules, even a crypt group can lose a room if someone decides to walk in and sit in just one room and maintain presence there. I'm not saying the current server rules are right, but Derubiel is making a bad situation even worse. If this ruling stands, then they will need to end up defining every single camp in the game. GM defining specific camps is just plain retarded. I guess the other option is to come up with some arbitrary camp definition like "every mob within X distance or Y rooms of your group's stationary camping spot".

[quido]

The way crypt has been handled for years here is this:

If you are anywhere inside the crypt (not at emp) you reserve the right to lay claim to all 4 camps. This is an anomaly because you don't have to have someone at each of the spawns. This was an executive decision handed down by Rogean over two years ago. If you leave to goto emp, you relinquish you rights to the entire crypt, though most players won't get in the middle of it then.

You are within your rights to camp any portion of the crypt. This was also handed down by Rogean as an executive decision to Amelinda when Aerowyn <IB> started crying because I was only camping hiero and duke about two years ago. People are welcome to claim what is not already claimed by such a camper. For example, when I'm camping hiero and duke, I often invite groups to take Baron and Harbinger in addition to emp.

[Nastinate]

This is crazy talk, crypt is considered 4 different camps most people just respect the fact that a group can call and handle all 4. If someones down there soloing one spawn, then that is their mob.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way crypt has been handled for years here is this:

If you are anywhere inside the crypt (not at emp) you reserve the right to lay claim to all 4 camps. This is an anomaly because you don't have to have someone at each of the spawns. This was an executive decision handed down by Rogean over two years ago. If you leave to goto emp, you relinquish you rights to the entire crypt, though most players won't get in the middle of it then.

You are within your rights to camp any portion of the crypt. This was also handed down by Rogean as an executive decision to Amelinda when Aerowyn <IB> started crying because I was only camping hiero and duke about two years ago. People are welcome to claim what is not already claimed by such a camper. For example, when I'm camping hiero and duke, I often invite groups to take Baron and Harbinger in addition to emp.

[Coolname]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The way crypt has been handled for years here is this:

If you are anywhere inside the crypt (not at emp) you reserve the right to lay claim to all 4 camps. This is an anomaly because you don't have to have someone at each of the spawns. This was an executive decision handed down by Rogean over two years ago. If you leave to goto emp, you relinquish you rights to the entire crypt, though most players won't get in the middle of it then.

You are within your rights to camp any portion of the crypt. This was also handed down by Rogean as an executive decision to Amelinda when Aerowyn <IB> started crying because I was only camping hiero and duke about two years ago. People are welcome to claim what is not already claimed by such a camper. For example, when I'm camping hiero and duke, I often invite groups to take Baron and Harbinger in addition to emp.

must do all 4 as of today's ruling, I wouldn't mind that including IGS and roamer as well