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Old 11-07-2013, 08:35 PM
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Yeah it's pretty stupid. I made a warrior awhile back and started hitting freeport yard trash with my starter *Sword when this idiot 30 bard comes in the zone and pulls the entire yard to his lv 1 buddies for the next hour. Takes a special kind of scumbag to screw over lv 1's lol.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:12 PM
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The one most annoying thing with the bard AE kiting isn't even that they're taking all the mobs in a zone. It's that the pull takes so long between rounding everything up and then slowly AEing everything that it monopolizes the zone for soooo long.
If some high lvl blasts thru every gnoll in BB it sucks but the zone will repop in 20 min or whatever.
When a bard starts doing an OT roundup it means no mobs for maybe an hour.
Whatever bard takes longer than 30min to roundup and kill everything needs to not be swarming in the first place bcuz they're failing pretty hardcore. I have swarmed in pretty much every zone possible and it should never take longer than 30min if you know what you are doing. Granted thats still a possible 30min without npc's, but like many others are saying there are a lot of other places to level that give a ZEM and would be way more efficient in the long run to crank out those levels. Just my 2 cents! Sucks having the zone occupied by a bard, but theres plenty of other places to find zero bards/plvlers.

Kedge Keep ftw!
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:25 PM
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This is actually quite an interesting concept. By virtue of the bard low hp kiting and the people being PLed essentially KSing the bard it would actually make the entire train fair game for anyone.

I would have to then assume it is ok if you are able to AOE down the bards train faster than the people being PLed you would not be punished for this.
How do you come to this conclusion, that it isn't technically ksing? The mob "belongs" to the first person to agro it, and it's their decision who is and is not allowed to kill that mob. If you kill a mob that is agro'd on somebody else without their permission, that is KSing.
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Old 11-07-2013, 09:59 PM
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get in the habit of finding or starting groups. It is where the fun is, imo. You can tank with newb gear. You just need to get into the group aspect. Do the circuit of dungeons. Befallen, Najena, upper Guk, etc. The dungeon zones suffer less from the problem you are encountering.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:05 PM
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He's talking about healing the kiter and transferring the hate. Not killing the mobs. But for most classes making a bard angry is not the best choice.

As for the mechanic...bards have always had sick leveling methods even well past this time frame. Really anything that does not summon has always been bard bait with either aoe until LDoN orswarming. Hell, if charm swarming worked you'd have even more zones with bards although charm swarming didn't create long mob droughts usually.
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Old 11-07-2013, 10:13 PM
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I have only ever PLd on a monk and I have two very small pieces of advice to give.

1) Talk to people in zone and be polite - this goes much farther than you can imagine.
2) PL/get PLd in Kedge - best zem in game and the only problem I've had in the zone was that there were other people PLing in my spot some times.

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Old 11-07-2013, 11:34 PM
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can we get confirmation on whether or not the ZEM in kedge keep has been unnerfed? i can't get or find a straight answer
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Old 11-08-2013, 01:12 AM
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He's talking about healing the kiter and transferring the hate. Not killing the mobs.
The posts made so little sense I didn't want to read them again and quoted the wrong one, meant to be replying to him saying you could nuke down the bard's mobs faster than the PLees with no repercussions.
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