Guild Leader?

[Greegon]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unlike a lot of leaders Nizzar is very level headed and understand that he needs to worry about HIS guild and not other guilds.

calls GMs retarded, just like you

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Greegon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

calls GMs retarded, just like you

GMs make bad calls too.. they are human after all.

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GMs make bad calls too.. they are human after all.

So, GM makes call that inconveniences your exploiting guild from exploiting further.. And that entitles you to call them "retards" and verbally abuse them because they "make bad calls."

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[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, GM makes call that inconveniences your exploiting guild from exploiting further.. And that entitles you to call them "retards" and verbally abuse them because they "make bad calls."

Pretty sure I never called a gm a retard..

But they are like referees or umpires.. sometimes they make bad calls.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pretty sure I never called a gm a retard..

But they are like referees or umpires.. sometimes they make bad calls.

And those calls are reversed if they are infact bad calls. Ala Holocaust.

The difference is that the team usually moves on and continues to compete...not cry for almost TWO YEARS after the fact and use it is a crutch for their incompetence and poor game play.

Good leadership would have guided Holocaust through it and they would have persevered in the long run.

[big mouth chew]

theres no statute of limitations on EverCrimes tho

[HippoNipple]

A good leader has:

-Charisma - fun to group with, social personality

-EQ Knowledge - know the PvE content

-Level Headed - Know how to dissect a situation, see both sides, and make the best decision.

-Selfless - putting the guild first at all times

-5-10 hours a day to dedicate to EQ

-A group of 4-8 loyal friends with high play times that also have knowledge of the game

-Organizational skills - puts in time to organize a schedule, has clear goals, organizes the guild quick and efficiently.

[Taboo]

I ran an eq2 pvp guild for several expansions as number one on the server and I can tell you this, I could not have stayed in control as long as we did without being a dick sometimes.

I had to always seems like my way was the best way even when I made mistakes. I had to play more hours than I actually worked in a week. I had to keep people in the guild I could not stand just because they played as many hours as me and made raid calls. I booted people I liked because they could not play as much as I needed them to.

It was always said that we had the most skilled players on the server and thats why we got so many server firsts. Not really. When you have alot of people willing to throw themselves at mobs for hours on end it does not take long before you figure aoe timers, DD's and where to stand. Everquest itself has a written guide for every mob in the game by now.

When one guild begins to run the path to loot you will stay with them not because you like the people but because what other choice is there ? Not saying that is the case here but I can see that as a reason. So you pick your inner circle and deal with the rest of the jerks to make sure you can enjoy some raid time.

Was I a good leader? Yes because I gave the guild the ability to get loot. No because I booted some really cool players for those whose only claim to fame was alot of hours played.

One thing I never did was horde loot. I kept enough to cover repairs and corpse runs and the rest I gave back to the guild. I'm not sure if thats done here when I hear of people having to buy loot from your own guild. Kinda weird but if the guildies put up with it, noone is to blame.

Just another perspective.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Taboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I ran an eq2 pvp guild for several expansions as number one on the server and I can tell you this, I could not have stayed in control as long as we did without being a dick sometimes.

I had to always seems like my way was the best way even when I made mistakes. I had to play more hours than I actually worked in a week. I had to keep people in the guild I could not stand just because they played as many hours as me and made raid calls. I booted people I liked because they could not play as much as I needed them to.

It was always said that we had the most skilled players on the server and thats why we got so many server firsts. Not really. When you have alot of people willing to throw themselves at mobs for hours on end it does not take long before you figure aoe timers, DD's and where to stand. Everquest itself has a written guide for every mob in the game by now.

When one guild begins to run the path to loot you will stay with them not because you like the people but because what other choice is there ? Not saying that is the case here but I can see that as a reason. So you pick your inner circle and deal with the rest of the jerks to make sure you can enjoy some raid time.

Was I a good leader? Yes because I gave the guild the ability to get loot. No because I booted some really cool players for those whose only claim to fame was alot of hours played.

One thing I never did was horde loot. I kept enough to cover repairs and corpse runs and the rest I gave back to the guild. I'm not sure if thats done here when I hear of people having to buy loot from your own guild. Kinda weird but if the guildies put up with it, noone is to blame.

Just another perspective.

Good post, shows there is a difference between a good leader and a successful raid leader.

[HippoNipple]

On this server it is more likely a good leader won't get you the most pixels, but will provide you with the most fun.