No problem with you bards until tonight, what you guys should understand.

[Thulack]

OT is such crappy XP compared to guk's or HHK or any other dungeon. OT and BW should be bard heaven and are for a reason. And this coming from a person that will never play a bard on p99.

[Atmas]

Originally Posted by ripwind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

XP in Kaesora is insane up to about 45/46. Amazed so few people XP there. Especially since melee can be bound right outside. Some decent drops too, including some "garbage" drops that vendor for good amounts (Tombcarver, Spinepiercer, etc.)

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OT is such crappy XP compared to guk's or HHK or any other dungeon. OT and BW should be bard heaven and are for a reason. And this coming from a person that will never play a bard on p99.

[Wudan]

Im sorry but i have to be honest here. OP is confirmed retard

[Buma]

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh wow, I'm sorry bards pulled outside their designated spots...wait, who the fuck are you to tell anyone where they can and cannot pull from again?

WOW aren't you cool. Have you read the thread? My post was constructive criticism, it was intended for actual bards to look at and give a consensus to what is actually or should be their designated pull areas they use. If you (bard) took offense to the thread then I can only hand you some cream for your butt hurt. Again it's why we have forums. I am nobody to tell you where or how to pull, but if you read the thread you would understand that.

Originally Posted by Wudan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im sorry but i have to be honest here. OP is confirmed retard

Yes I am partly retarded from the years of reading posts like yours. The dumbing down of society and the anti social non comprehending people that seem to have monopolized the word retard have little to no effect on me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Buma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

words.....I am nobody to tell you where or how to pull....words

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Designated pull areas do not exist in EQ. Compete or die.

[fishingme]

you can easily ruin a bard's day by rooting 2-3 mobs towards the end of their kite without them knowing about it. 3-4 rooted mobs is pretty much assured a death for them. After you root said mobs, just zone out to clear aggro. Rooting isn't Ksing.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you can easily ruin a bard's day by rooting 2-3 mobs towards the end of their kite without them knowing about it. 3-4 rooted mobs is pretty much assured a death for them. After you root said mobs, just zone out to clear aggro. Rooting isn't Ksing.

Not to derail the thread, but rooting mobs doesn't even touch an AoE kiting Bard. All that will happen is he/she finishes up the main group and then comes back and DoT's the rooted mobs down with impunity. If they break and come back at him/her, they join the existing swarm, or it's back to kiting. Mind you, I do kite in 3rd person mode so I will see any returning mobs well before they get to me and can just funnel them into my existing swarm (as happened several times when other Bard kites returned when the Bard died). You could get lucky and have one of the returning mobs manage to land a hit and stun the Bard. That wouldn't be usual though. Bards are used to picking up unplanned adds and adjusting constantly. Decent Bards rarely stop running at full speed. There is nothing in the game outside of lag that can touch them.

SoW is equally useless - the Bard simply snares the SoWed mob, and gets back to business. I kite at full speed (twisting Selos with a drum instead of relying on JBoots only) to cover these exact instances. The only thing that will undo a Bard is casting mobs.

Fear bombing however...

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to derail the thread, but rooting mobs doesn't even touch an AoE kiting Bard. All that will happen is he/she finishes up the main group and then comes back and DoT's the rooted mobs down with impunity. If they break and come back at him/her, they join the existing swarm, or it's back to kiting. Mind you, I do kite in 3rd person mode so I will see any returning mobs well before they get to me and can just funnel them into my existing swarm (as happened several times when other Bard kites returned when the Bard died). You could get lucky and have one of the returning mobs manage to land a hit and stun the Bard. That wouldn't be usual though. Bards are used to picking up unplanned adds and adjusting constantly. Decent Bards rarely stop running at full speed. There is nothing in the game outside of lag that can touch them.

SoW is equally useless - the Bard simply snares the SoWed mob, and gets back to business. I kite at full speed (twisting Selos with a drum instead of relying on JBoots only) to cover these exact instances. The only thing that will undo a Bard is casting mobs.

Fear bombing however...

Unsure, but I think I said to root multiple mobs. The root wouldnt be a high level root so it wouldnt be lasting very long and it would be as the bard is within 15-20seconds back to his kiting spot. More than a few bards on the server drop their clip plane, I found it impossible not to with a large kite behind me. You can drop a few unexpected AoE's or even buff the bard right as he is coming in for the dot pass. Believe, when your unexpecting it, it kicks you. Bonds of force wouldnt be bad to use either. I'm not sure in your experience how many mobs you were kiting but I can assure ya that I kited with each kite no less than 150+mobs in OT while there really isnt really much more than 150 unless you're pulling the sarnak casters.

[Splorf22]

If the OP had been talking about the Dreadlands or South Karana I would have been ready to get my pitchfork, but OT is just designed for bards.

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the OP had been talking about the Dreadlands or South Karana I would have been ready to get my pitchfork, but OT is just designed for bards.

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