Game Mechanics: Blacksmithing Trivals

[Vandy]

Originally Posted by olderj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It appears that the trivials for "small" size banded mail are still at their pre-update values. I did not check "large".

Huffle

Looks like only the normal size versions trivial was changed.

'small banded belt', 'small banded boots', 'small banded bracer', 'small banded cloak', 'small banded gauntlets', 'small banded gorget', 'small banded helm', 'small banded leggings', 'small banded mail', 'small banded mantle', 'small banded mask', 'small banded sleeves', 'large banded belt', 'large banded boots', 'large banded bracer', 'large banded cloak', 'large banded gauntlets', 'large banded gorget', 'large banded helm', 'large banded leggings', 'large banded mail', 'large banded mantle', 'large banded mask', 'large banded sleeves'


3083	large banded belt	95
3088	large banded boots	95
3085	large banded bracer	95
3082	large banded cloak	102
3089	large banded gauntlets	102
3079	large banded gorget	92
3077	large banded helm	106
3087	large banded leggings	108
3080	large banded mail	115
3081	large banded mantle	95
3078	large banded mask	90
3084	large banded sleeves	102
3071	small banded belt	95
3076	small banded boots	95
3073	small banded bracer	95
3070	small banded cloak	102
3074	small banded gauntlets	102
3067	small banded gorget	92
3065	small banded helm	106
3075	small banded leggings	108
3068	small banded mail	115
3069	small banded mantle	95
3066	small banded mask	90
3072	small banded sleeves	102

[Vandy]

I would also assume that the same applies to fine plate sizes of large and small although I have not check it in game yet.

'small fine plate collar', 'small fine plate bracer', 'small fine plate girdle', 'small fine plate boots', 'small fine plate vambraacers', 'small fine plate pauldron ', 'small fine plate gauntlets', 'small fine plate greaves', 'small fine plate breastplate', 'small fine plate helm', 'large fine plate collar', 'large fine plate bracer', 'large fine plate girdle', 'large fine plate boots', 'large fine plate vambraacers', 'large fine plate pauldron ', 'large fine plate gauntlets', 'large fine plate greaves', 'large fine plate breastplate', 'large fine plate helm'


21036	large fine plate boots		168
21033	large fine plate bracer		168
21027	large fine plate collar		166
21034	large fine plate gauntlets	175
21031	large fine plate girdle		168
21035	large fine plate greaves	179
21025	large fine plate helm		179
21029	large fine plate pauldron	168
21024	small fine plate boots		168
21021	small fine plate bracer		168
21015	small fine plate collar		166
21022	Small Fine Plate Gauntlets	175
21019	small fine plate girdle		168
21023	small fine plate greaves	179
21013	small fine plate helm		179
21017	small fine plate pauldron	168

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Vandy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would also assume that the same applies to fine plate sizes of large and small although I have not check it in game yet.

Fine plate and Ornate Chain are already properly implemented.

[olderj]

I checked the large banded and fine plate tonight and it appeared to be at the correct (updated) trivial levels.

Huffle

[MrSparkle001]

Does this mean guides like http://web.archive.org/web/200104121...bbg/train.html are accurate now?

[Vandy]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does this mean guides like http://web.archive.org/web/200104121...bbg/train.html are accurate now?

Yes that guide should be accurate to follow now that some of the trivials have been changed to classic levels.

[Ravhin]

We can make a list of items, but see e.g.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Cultural_Tradeskills:_Dwarf

for "Imbued Dwarven Chain X". All I can say (based on my previous research) is that the p99 trivials are way too low for the main armor pieces (I suspect they were >240 or >250 for most cultural imbued armor pieces in classic). But, there are no exact numbers, only lower limits.

Another complication, e.g. "Dwarven Plate X (Enchanted Imbued)" have current trivials consistent with the classic trivials, but I'm not sure they shouldn't be higher. This is demonstrated by the "Enchanter Dwarven Plate X" pieces, some of which have consistent trivials, but some must be wrong, leading me to the conclusion they are all too low.

Are you willing to guess (and/or have some other source for these) at new trivials when there are only lower bounds? If so we can proceed.

[Estu]

Today I got blacksmithing up to 115 with skewers, then made a full suit of large banded sans tunic and gloves and everything was already trivial.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Today I got blacksmithing up to 115 with skewers, then made a full suit of large banded sans tunic and gloves and everything was already trivial.

Look about 6 posts up

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look about 6 posts up

Whoops.