Collectivism vs Individualism

[Aenor]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please stop catering to the best forumquesters.

Instead of crying over your defeat at the hands of legendary forumquesters such as myself, I suggest you take Supreme's advice:

"Why not just man up..make a guild..compete and don't quit when you get spanked but keep trying?"

[Llodd]

Originally Posted by Aenor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Instead of crying over your defeat at the hands of legendary forumquesters such as myself, I suggest you take Supreme's advice:

"Why not just man up..make a guild..compete and don't quit when you get spanked but keep trying?"

Are Nihilum and TMO the same guild? Both use the exact same logic.

[GrobbGangsta]

Supreme you are just a fat and awful douche. The purpose of this is not to protect your raid loot. The purpose is to provide the most fun on EQEMU for the most amount of people. The answer is Teams99.

Take your collectivism and shove it either up your or your wife's fat, disgusting rectum.

[Aenor]

Originally Posted by Llodd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are Nihilum and TMO the same guild? Both use the exact same logic.

Well, that's a mighty fine question there, Llodd. Nihilum hacks their way to victory, recruits 60% of the server making competition impossible, then cries an "ocean of tears" when the staff decides to make a new server. You would think they'd be happy... they can farm all the pixels they want uncontested... isn't that what they always wanted?

But no, what they want is something else (and coincidentally, something they will never have). They want casuals like us who have a life outside of games to stick around and be jealous of their "accomplishments." They don't want people to leave and go to a server where PvP actually happens. It's just like Nirgon said, they shit their own bed and now they're complaining about the smell.

Now, Supreme will probably jump right back in and say all this "hate" for Nihilum stems from jealousy. Unfortunately that argument won't apply in this case. I'm not on the outside looking in, I was on the inside looking out. I was in Nihilum, past ap status, getting loot at the time of Kunark release. I quit before I ever dinged 52. Raiding uncontested was so boring I lost interest.

So, there's no jealousy here. The operative emotion, for someone who sees people like Supreme desperately crying and begging for attention and affirmation, is pity.

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by Aenor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, that's a mighty fine question there, Llodd. Nihilum hacks their way to victory, recruits 60% of the server making competition impossible, then cries an "ocean of tears" when the staff decides to make a new server. You would think they'd be happy... they can farm all the pixels they want uncontested... isn't that what they always wanted?

But no, what they want is something else (and coincidentally, something they will never have). They want casuals like us who have a life outside of games to stick around and be jealous of their "accomplishments." They don't want people to leave and go to a server where PvP actually happens. It's just like Nirgon said, they shit their own bed and now they're complaining about the smell.

Now, Supreme will probably jump right back in and say all this "hate" for Nihilum stems from jealousy. Unfortunately that argument won't apply in this case. I'm not on the outside looking in, I was on the inside looking out. I was in Nihilum, past ap status, getting loot at the time of Kunark release. I quit before I ever dinged 52. Raiding uncontested was so boring I lost interest.

So, there's no jealousy here. The operative emotion, for someone who sees people like Supreme desperately crying and begging for attention and affirmation, is pity.

This could not be more accurate, and I just wanted to get in before the "you mads" or whatever Nihilum meme of the day gets tossed around.

They do not want "competition." They want a group of people with a serious disadvantage to continue to cobble together a ragtag group and be easily slaughtered while they safely hide behind numbers and gear. They want this to go on indefinitely.

Sorry brews, the dream is dead. All your pixels = zero.

[Nirgon]

Fresh server gets a clean slate with Zade/Sirken as GMs.

Mayhaps an Ambrotos too.

Account selling and trading was non classic and wasted too much of staff/Ephi's time.

[Nirgon]

That is NOT a lie. Wolfram pointed out a bug and you guys killed him.

[Nirgon]

^ Yeah because I really want to make the servers as terrible and not classic as possible

[Something'Witty]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ Yeah because I really want to make the servers as terrible and not classic as possible

Way to read between the lines, you figured me out! /sarcasm off

EDIT: At first glance I thought you (Nirgon) were talking about me, and was really confused. In hind sight, I realize you were talking about yourself. Well I didn't have you in mind when I posted the Edmund Burke quote, but it does apply. You might be a smart guy that knows a lot about EQ, however, that knowledge does not necessarily translate into knowing what is best for the R99 community. Just because someone is loud, doesn't mean they are right.

And for the record, I agree with you the majority of the time.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ Yeah because I really want to make the servers as terrible and not classic as possible

Nirgon (and his trolls) only will be happy when they have a server they can call their own.

Of course they already had it with Legacy of Zek and it failed...