Senate Foreign Relations Committee votes to give President Obama the power to launch

[Estolcles]

Originally Posted by waldo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Interesting that all this Syria shit starts happening as the American people are starting to question their government more. With Snowden and Wiki leaks out, the government has to do something to make us forget about our own nation.

Obitchcakes is playing "Wag The Dog".

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As much as Nancy Pelosi is indeed a dumb cunt, I think in this case they actually found, or claim to have found, residues from chemical weaponry at the site. Even if it is fabricated, the evidence is much more compelling (existent) than preceded Iraq.

And they have shown no evidence displaying who released the chemical weapons. The strongman in charge who is winning the civil war? Or the Al-Qaeda-linked rebels that are hoping to draw the US into helping them? The former seems less likely, though I'd only throw the odds at maybe 2:1 in favor of the rebels. The claim they'll show proof it was Assad's government, but the longer we go without such proof, the more it seems they're hoping that aspect goes away.

Now, let's say we follow the president's plan of launching limited strikes on Assad in order to weaken his regime. Will that work? Unlikely. It will only solidify support as about the only thing Muslims hate more than other Muslims is foreigners interfering with their Muslim v Muslim bloodbaths. If we decide we need to stop the violence, we better be damn well ready to put a quarter million troops or more into the country. Half-assing our way through wars hasn't worked for the past 50 years and it isn't going to work now.

Finally, I saw Kerry saying this isn't a war. He defined it using some bullshit language such as "limited strike intended to reduce the enemy's ability to attack". But we're considering dropping bombs and launching missiles. That's war. If the government of Canada suddenly started launching cruise missiles (probably powered by maple syrup) at Washington DC, you can be pretty damn sure we'd consider it an act of war.

[Orruar]

Another point I forgot to make: Kerry was saying that if we don't launch an attack on Assad, it will mean many other dictators will see it as a green light to use chemical weapons on their people. Well, what is going to happen if we do create this clear rule that use of chemical weapons = US bombing a country in an attempt to destroy the regime? Anyone who wants to overthrow their government will now have infinitely more power than they did before. They don't need to worry about fighting their own war. All they need to do is figure out a way to gas a few thousand of their fellow countrymen and the US will come do it for them. It's entirely conceivable that launching an attack will lead to many more chemical weapons attacks in the future.

[JayN]

Zionist are afraid to loose their stranglehold.

Great lengths are being taken to remove the Dollar as the only Petrol acceptable currency (petrol dollar).

Once this happens we will no longer be in control of anything.

Knowing then our dollar is now worthless China may/will doing something drastic to recoup its losses on American debts.

Knowing our dollar is now worthless

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whether or not he is pro or anti war crimes has little relevance to his thoughts on aggressive military intervention.

The issue is whether these specific war crimes warrant military intervention.

If so, why us?

If us, why is it okay for us to do it outside established channels (United Nations)?

Even if we wanted to, can we even afford it?

If we can't do it in an official capacity because of Russia and China's security council vetoes, then it is Russia and China's fault.

Try to look at it less autistically and more like a rational person. And if we're talking war crimes, how about Guantanamo bay, waterboarding, extraordinary rendition, drone strikes, sponsoring Israel's behavior, etc etc etc

You sound a lot like the western nations in the 1930s.

[apio]

the real problem i have with this is how it is being communicated. If they would be killing their people with weapons the US sold to them (as happening in many countries worldwide, at this very moment), nobody would have a problem with it.

THAT is the real problem

[Tibador]

Originally Posted by gaylordfockerp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is good old Ronald's doing, our country has been fucked since the late 80's. Why couldn't Jimmy Carter run for life? Only president in recent times to never have gotten involved in a forgein conflict. Thanks Jim. Haters hate on and Root keep getting her fat, she will never leave.

Haha really do you even know world politics and why were even fucking talking about Syria today your best friend Jimmy Carter is the cause of all this by fucking over the Shah of Iran back in the 70-80's it gave rise to the leadership that is currently running things and is the only reason along with Russia that Syria is not wiped out right now.

Worst fucking President in a long long ass time and you claim he's the best man our Education system is going to shit.

[Sirken]

i thought the title said "power to lunch"

very disappointed

[Misto]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you explain to your daddy/uncle that you let a ****** be better than you in every way? Obama's more successful, intelligent, and wealthy than your entire sister fucking, inbred family will ever be. Keep Forumquesting, hero.

Mad and black. LAPD on standby.

[r00t]

Originally Posted by Bodeanicus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you explain to your daddy/uncle that you let a ****** be better than you in every way? Obama's more successful, intelligent, and wealthy than your entire sister fucking, inbred family will ever be. Keep Forumquesting, hero.

haha holy shit you srs? he's not better than me in any way.

Obama never built or earned anything in his life. Every election he's ever won was handed to him. His legitimate title should be the community organizer n chief. Occupy protesting community organizers have more intelligent thoughts than him, he can't even form a sentence without having to pause 30 times for his teleprompter.