Fully Classic vs Current

[Weekapaug]

I don't know how it's being "rude" simply discussing this. I'm not being critical of the devs (direct you to the "I'm sure there are good reasons for it" portion of my comments) I'm just saying that in the 3+ years I've been here I've never understood how these things get prioritized. I notice you didn't start till 2011....Things were a lot more classic at that point.

The order in which things change can have a lot of affect on balance. Nerfing one thing while leaving other non-classic elements in can throw things out of whack, basicly.

For example, notice how there are tons of bards right now, but not a lot of other hybrids? It's not just because they can AoE kite and solo. Bards are a lot easier to play with custom UIs. So the net effect of leaving custom UIs in while reinstating the hybrid penalty is that bards can overcome the penalty by soloing mass amounts of mobs and can overcome some classic limitations to the class with custom UIs while the other hybrids, most of which can't really solo at all, have a harder time getting groups.

I'm not being critical of the devs at all. It's just a discussion of the classic-ness of the server. Sheesh!

Again, back to the original topic, utlizing the Triliogy client fixes a lot of non-classic issues.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just saying that in the 3+ years I've been here I've never understood how these things get prioritized. I notice you didn't start till 2011....Things were a lot more classic at that point.

Then you have missed what I said about difficulty of implementing some things vs the others. Nilbog ultimate goal to "nerf" everything to full classiness. Some things are easier to do so, others are not. Its only matter of time and coding skills. The devs did not just choose to turn the spell sets off one day - they discovered how to do that and did so.

Also the fact that my first post dates back to 2011, doesn't mean its when I started to be around from [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, back to the original topic, utlizing the Triliogy client fixes a lot of non-classic issues.

Again - see my post on page 1 - you will NEVER have Trilogy client. It doesn't work, and in last 8 years I been around EMU no one ever could get it to work.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then you have missed what I said about difficulty of implementing some things vs the others. Nilbog ultimate goal to "nerf" everything to full classiness. Some things are easier to do so, others are not. Its only matter of time and coding skills. The devs did not just choose to turn the spell sets off one day - they discovered how to do that and did so.

Also the fact that my first post dates back to 2011, doesn't mean its when I started to be around from [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



Again - see my post on page 1 - you will NEVER have Trilogy client. It doesn't work, and in last 8 years I been around EMU no one ever could get it to work.

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No, I didn't miss what you said. My concern is that the order in which things go in have an affect on class balance and that of the server overall.

It's not that I don't understand that somethings are harder to implement than others. My question is, do they consider overall balance when they do them, regardless of when they get to a particular issue or another. There are issues beyond the technical to consider. Do they?

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, I didn't miss what you said. My concern is that the order in which things go in have an affect on class balance and that of the server overall.

It's not that I don't understand that somethings are harder to implement than others. My question is, do they consider overall balance when they do them, regardless of when they get to a particular issue or another. There are issues beyond the technical to consider. Do they?

Well I see what you saying, but to be fair - Verant/SOE never cared much for such details neither. They had the Vision, in accordance to which they slapped hybrids with insane Xp penalty, while having such overpowered class like Necro to run around untouched for a decade. So, I would say that devs approach to the actual balance of the game is classic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I see what you saying, but to be fair - Verant/SOE never cared much for such details neither. They had the Vision, in accordance to which they slapped hybrids with insane Xp penalty, while having such overpowered class like Necro to run around untouched for a decade. So, I would say that devs approach to the actual balance of the game is classic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You do have a point with that. There are so many examples where they just willy-nilly "fixed" things that would break whole classes....Then take their sweet ass time fixing them.

Breaking bards every other patch became a running joke.

I often joke that the most unclassic thing about p99 is the server doesn't go down all the time unexpectedly, always on the day you actually have time to play, and the patches are solid. No patching the patch of the patch like on live that I've seen here. They generally do a better job with everything here than live.

[Klax]

Sucketh thee upon my E-balls.

[Weekapaug]

I did, but may have waited till the end of the cast timer, since the other poster mentions it.

[Weekapaug]

I don't, personally, care for every single aspect of classic, but what I don't understand is, if you aren't into true classic, why play here?

For a breezy classic-ish tour?

Give me my boat rides, old toon graphics, my level 12 epiced rogue alt and funghi tunic that I got on EZ Mode, but hold all the little bullshit that adds up to real challenge? Keep the custom UIs and item linking 'cause I'm a new skoool kid and deserve it? Oh nos...I have to look at a book to med while I play my op caster?

Just don't get it.

There IS no classic EQ without all of the little bullshit that goes with it. The game was designed around it. A lot of you guys talk a big game but are the very same "give me my mmo on a silver platter" entitled douches as the wow kids. You just think you are different because you play a 14 year old game with 8 year old conveninces. And voice chat.

If you can't play the game with a single bank of 6 hotkeys and one chat window, you're a noob. And if you complain about it, you're pathetic.

Barring that, everything you have done was done on EZ-Mode. Including what raid targets you have locked down and your fucking epic.

Sorry, but it had to be said.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't, personally, care for every single aspect of classic, but what I don't understand is, if you aren't into true classic, why play here?

For a breezy classic-ish tour?

Give me my boat rides, old toon graphics, my level 12 epiced rogue alt and funghi tunic that I got on EZ Mode, but hold all the little bullshit that adds up to real challenge? Keep the custom UIs and item linking 'cause I'm a new skoool kid and deserve it? Oh nos...I have to look at a book to med while I play my op caster?

Just don't get it.

There IS no classic EQ without all of the little bullshit that goes with it. The game was designed around it. A lot of you guys talk a big game but are the very same "give me my mmo on a silver platter" entitled douches as the wow kids. You just think you are different because you play a 14 year old game with 8 year old conveninces. And voice chat.

If you can't play the game with a single bank of 6 hotkeys and one chat window, you're a noob. And if you complain about it, you're pathetic.

Barring that, everything you have done was done on EZ-Mode. Including what raid targets you have locked down and your fucking epic.

Sorry, but it had to be said.

He has some valid points. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]