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Old 07-14-2010, 09:14 PM
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:00 PM
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From 30k to 45k and now 125k.

One of these things is not like the other!
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:14 PM
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The market can't dictate a proper price on this item as it's been. First off, it's pretty silly that anyone has ever sold it. Do you know how many of these are in the game? Do you know how many people would like them? DA has only gotten one. The rest were gotten by IB and Transcendence. There have been two of these hammers sold ever, both let go by Transcendence. From then (which I think was right around the turn of the new year) none got sold until both of those were recently resold for 30 and 45k. In between those pairs of sales, I've received offers up to 85k for Jeremy's. I've had many 60k+ offers.

Also, people do not realize what a ridiculously powerful item this is for a Shaman. If you have your doubts, come group with me on Jeremy sometime. I will proc the fuck out of some shit.
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Old 07-15-2010, 08:54 AM
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The market can't dictate a proper price on this item as it's been. First off, it's pretty silly that anyone has ever sold it. Do you know how many of these are in the game? Do you know how many people would like them? DA has only gotten one. The rest were gotten by IB and Transcendence. There have been two of these hammers sold ever, both let go by Transcendence. From then (which I think was right around the turn of the new year) none got sold until both of those were recently resold for 30 and 45k. In between those pairs of sales, I've received offers up to 85k for Jeremy's. I've had many 60k+ offers.

Also, people do not realize what a ridiculously powerful item this is for a Shaman. If you have your doubts, come group with me on Jeremy sometime. I will proc the fuck out of some shit.
If you're able to sell it for 125k, that's "the market" appropriately pricing the item. If you receive an offer which you think is high enough and accept the trade, that's also "the market" appropriately pricing the item. It's more accurate to say that you believe people have been underselling the item with regard to its rarity, demand, subjective utility, etc.

I think people tend to assume prices should always stay within their experience, and so prices begin to be set by tradition rather than their actual demand/supply.

This guy is entirely free to try to sell it for 125k, and no derogatory and pointless "THATS NOT THE PRICE" comments are really necessary or valid. The "price" isn't an objective concept. He takes longer to find a seller, then that's that - nothing wrong or evil about it. If he never sells it or other sellers (if there are any) undercut him, that's that.

Obviously it's legitimate to say "That seems a little high," but let's not go into patronizing nonsense about "it may only be sold for X amount, otherwise you're an idiot." I'm sure we'll see some initially high prices for leet kunark items like Tranquil Staff, etc initially, but those prices should fall a bit as the server becomes more saturated with them.


Side note: Imagine wielding one of those suckers at level 30 when the proc activates...that'd be awesome. Would it be worth 125k to me? Nah. But I don't speak for other people.
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:27 AM
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I say raise it to 200k. Hell, go to 500k. If you can get that much plat for it do it.


Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

Take the SMR for example. About 8 people have been trying to sell those things for around 5-6k and none are buying. Soon you will see it fall low, and then i'll pick on up for about 3.5k lol
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Old 07-15-2010, 09:29 AM
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I say raise it to 200k. Hell, go to 500k. If you can get that much plat for it do it.

Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay.

Take the SMR for example. About 8 people have been trying to sell those things for around 5-6k and none are buying. Soon you will see it fall low, and then i'll pick on up for about 3.5k lol
Exactly.
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Old 07-24-2010, 04:51 AM
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Take the SMR for example. About 8 people have been trying to sell those things for around 5-6k and none are buying. Soon you will see it fall low, and then i'll pick on up for about 3.5k lol
Meh, put mine up for 5k fixed on the forums, had a reply in a couple days. 5k's about the most I'd expect to get for it, but it didn't take all that much patience. Maybe the people you're seeing are trying EC on off-peak, instead of forums/peak EC. I actually never got 'round to sellin in EC before mine sold.

More on topic, what's the deal with BSH? It do better dps than medding/nuking or doting? It CERTAINLY can't do more dps than JBB, so there's one item that replaces it in a big way.
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Old 07-15-2010, 06:39 AM
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From 30k to 45k and now 125k.

One of these things is not like the other!
Lol, I like how you stated that.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:40 AM
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I have the hammer, and have had it for a month now and can tell you it's insanely awesome. It's only real replacements are spear of fate and icewurm fang, both of which are late-kunark/velious. But you have to consider that one was sold recently for 45k, and by recently i mean a couple of days ago. Also have to note that unlike manastone or rubi BP, these hammers will INCREASE in drop rates after the fear revamp when the chances of dropping the hammer gets increased by as many golems are in fear. Is it worth 125k? probably not imo. Is it insanely awesome? absolutely, i love my hammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:45 AM
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I just want to chime in and say it's pretty lame this was made barbarian only. I realize that's in the name of the item and all, but it's still pretty lame. Of course, maybe trolls and ogres get some cool shit too - I don't know.
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