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Old 11-21-2013, 07:19 PM
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Ok I do not have time to read through the whole thread but I want to add that about a year ago I parsed fights on p99 with a mid level druid to as a basis on fixing ac on my private server. With different sets of gear I noticed significant reduction of average hits so I am certain that the ac code does work. If mobs at higher levels are not showing the same results the issue may be the atk rating on the high mobs are set too high. If this is the case then we would need a lot of parses at different levels to determine at which point mob atk rating needs to be scaled. I am not home so I couldn't read through the thread so if this wasn't the case i apologize.
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Old 11-22-2013, 07:24 AM
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For what it's worth...

Over the years, I've heard this is an Emulator bug, not a P99 bug (correct me if I'm wrong but that's my guess is to why no devs have posted here in the 3 months it's been posted/replied on). I agree it needs to be looked at, but it's basically in a whole other ball park from the looks. After having experience playing a War / SK / Pal, I can agree that SK / Pally mitigation is garbage. lol

I've also heard AC works same way from P99 to EZ Server, once reaching around 5-6k AC is when it starts to work accurately (which isn't right obviously as we'll never see 5-6(ish)k AC on p99..I think? I never played back in '99 to know for sure).

I know this is not classic, nor do i have valid proof - but just relaying word of mouth from what I've heard about the subject after seeing this thread pop up again and again.

I would personally recommend any tank class to focus on STA / HP gear over AC if / until this can get fixed.
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Old 11-22-2013, 11:11 AM
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ac works in pve for sure
wear ac gear and tank then switch it for resist gear and tank the same mob
u'll notice a biiig difference
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Old 11-22-2013, 02:15 PM
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ac works in pve for sure
wear ac gear and tank then switch it for resist gear and tank the same mob
u'll notice a biiig difference
If you had bothered to read the original post, you would have noticed that I equipped a 40AC shield and took either more or the same damage over a 10 minute fight. If you don't have a parse, you are simply deluding yourself.

Also Alecta I don't suppose you could do us all a big favor and post the AC code? I mean its not impossible that its just hard to measure.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:05 PM
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If you had bothered to read the original post, you would have noticed that I equipped a 40AC shield and took either more or the same damage over a 10 minute fight. If you don't have a parse, you are simply deluding yourself.

Also Alecta I don't suppose you could do us all a big favor and post the AC code? I mean its not impossible that its just hard to measure.
nope
looks like you didnt bother reading ppls replies about a softcap
shits classic & ur mad
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:02 PM
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looks like you didnt bother reading ppls replies about a softcap
shits classic & ur mad
Shield AC goes over the softcap . . . which was not implemented until Luclin, before which we had a hardcap . . . which is at 289, while my Iksar warrior has 160ish base AC and 200 with the shield . . . were the AC changes to be implemented, my warrior would get worse, not better.

Conclusion: 'u mad bro' has become the new feces for knuckledragging morons to sling over the Internet.

P.S. Thanks Alecta!
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:24 PM
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min-maxxers like you have ruined your own lands, you'll not ruin mine!
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:38 PM
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Fregar: if you had actually read the thread, you would have noticed:

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Shield AC goes over the softcap . . . which was not implemented until Luclin, before which we had a hardcap . . . which is at 289, while my Iksar warrior has 160ish base AC and 200 with the shield . . . were the AC changes to be implemented, my warrior would get worse, not better.
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The AC system isn't very clean, but from what I can tell:
  • The shield AC isnt handled any differently from normal AC
  • Soft caps arent in place (?)
Rail: I am well aware of how the damage interval works. You are not.

I do not understand how people can post incorrect information in this thread with such confidence.
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Old 11-22-2013, 04:04 PM
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Also Alecta I don't suppose you could do us all a big favor and post the AC code? I mean its not impossible that its just hard to measure.
Yar, will ask about it and let ya know. I post a lot of the guts of the pvp code because, well, no one else on staff cares too much. Will check on the AC stuff.

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Fix the PvE part first. It's kind of a big deal for AC to work properly.
I will get on it right after I start working on Velious.
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Old 11-22-2013, 05:19 PM
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I will get on it right after I start working on Velious.
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