A question to everyone not in TMO/IB.....

[Servellious]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'd add cholesterol

just caught that, very nice haha.

[Bantam 1]

So what I'm reading is that to really counter TMO or IB we need a pot luck dinner every week sent to their members?

I can make cheesecake pretty well!

[General]

Wasn't IB reformed to beat TMO? Whose gonna form to beat the guild thats forming to beat the guild that formed to beat TMO? that's right. this is stupid.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by General [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wasn't IB reformed to beat TMO? Whose gonna form to beat the guild thats forming to beat the guild that formed to beat TMO? that's right. this is stupid.

Now you're getting it. The mindset needs to change or it'll just transition from one overlord to the next.

[radditsu]

Bantam

The main use of the funds they get from trakanon breastplates and other gear is to buy other accounts to sit on spawn targets. These accounts are shared to people with the most playtime. So you have 20-30ish people with access to 20 accounts sitting on every target not in VP. So while most guilds would have to mobilize to a place. They can log in account and be fighting the boss 8-10 seconds after logging in. Sometimes they will tank stall a fight with Soulfire's *instant click cheal with 5 charges and easy to get*, to established something called FTE(First to engage). So they can have 2-3 people fight a raid mob almost indefinitely until forces log in.

It is pretty insurmountable unless you ask your entire guild to set their primary level 60 raider on a spawn point and log on 3-5 seconds after a batphone(a text message/twitter blast) is called by the tracker(the guy who gets paid DKP to sit and look at their screen until the mob pops).

Hope that explains to you what goes on at a high level raiding situation.

[Acrux Bcrux]

On Prexus towards the end of PoP, maybe even a little later some guy on the server had made a public pickup raid channel called barbraid for people to get backflagged through the planes. It was a massive shit show. I remember one raid in PoInnovation with about 178 people and it was almost a wipe. But they got shit done. Someone needs to start something similar on this server, even though it would be tough and completely different since were dealing with variances and people poopsocking rather than mobs just being left up since no one needed them and there were bigger targets to worry about. But it would be interesting to see a massive raid crew full of people who had no clue what was going on to put some extra pressure on TMO. Shit even just to see some shit like this go down to see the massive amount of hysteria that it would cause at raid targets would be awesome.

[Wotsirb401]

You realize by now most people who have been on the server for a bit have several raid ready toons, either by leveling them up or friends quitting etc. I am casual, make that very casual and I have 3 raid ready toons. Yes it sucks to have to continually re-park toons when i miss a batphone due to work or sleep but what else is there to do? Farm plat no way !

[Nirgon]

This is more an issue of a 4 year classic/kunark timeline and everyone having reached the level/gear requirements to attempt these encounters. Classic/Kunark was never designed to last this long.

The people with all the free time to kill these mobs would have been killing them uncontested while you guys were leveling up. Now that you've caught up, you're trying to contest them and are surprised at the result?

[Nlaar]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact is, you can't begin to imagine how toxic end game is before trying it. It goes way beyond outmobilizing competition inside the game. Unless you're ready to cheat, train with untagged accounts, RL stalk people, forumquest, make sure most people in your team own multiple accounts to park them at different targets and work your way into staff's favors, have enough people to track 24/7, don't even bother [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fact is, most raid capable players don't want to play like this. It's not classic.

Couldn't agree more. I was shocked by the pure spite that TMO showed towards VD when IB left and their focus was completely on VD. I play soccer for fun and competition. I don't take dives, I don't scream at the refs. Trying to raid on P99 with that same approach is impossible ... see quote above.

Toxic doesn't even begin to cover it...

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is more an issue of a 4 year classic/kunark timeline and everyone having reached the level/gear requirements to attempt these encounters. Classic/Kunark was never designed to last this long.

The people with all the free time to kill these mobs would have been killing them uncontested while you guys were leveling up. Now that you've caught up, you're trying to contest them and are surprised at the result?

It is an issue. Timeline is a big issue.

But also this server is not exactly advertised. I knew about EQ shortly after it came out.

This server is a ghost unless you basically google search for "classic everquest", or you frequent nerd boards.

There is also a ton of player rollover.

All these issues combined together make one big soup of awful. The least thing that could be done is make it as fair as possible to allow people to experience content.


You of all people should know this form of the server does not matter ultimately. Its going to be the wiped from scratch according to timeline one that will be done 2-3 years down the line.