Zipzop Interview thread.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but will you assist the gm's if they don't reinstate your account? This has already been detrimental to the integrity of the server and if it goes unresolved even farther. I realize you don't care but to make such a public spectacle when it easily could have been handled behind closed doors.... unecessary in my opinion

Yes, I will. I don't think it will dissuade people from hacking, but maybe this will actually make people stop calling all of the people who are trying to help 'tin foil hats' and crazy and whatnot.

Things fall through the cracks, information gets spread. That's just how it works. The people who obtain that information aren't always crazy or wrong.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Kesulos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No matter the way you look at it from the outside, you're just blackmailing.

You want to help the server but only if you get your character back. But if you don't get your character back you're not going to play anymore, and then you don't care what happens to the server. BUT you're going to release it anyway, not to help the server anymore, but out of spite to get revenge against possible corrupt staff who banned you 100% justifiably.

Either you're a dick for blackmailing volunteer staff offering a free service, or you're a dick for inciting a riot and then leaving the building.

The only possible outcome without you ending up the bad guy is if you release all the information on a good will basis to the staff. With the understanding they've restored accounts in the past for people who have provided much less than you claim to have.

My only qualm about giving it directly to the staff is that it could potentially lead to more things being covered up.

[Rhambuk]

Theres no point in doing all of this for attention, in 3 days without updates no one will even remember.

The entire mq2 thing just burned any sort of credibility you had with the community, i think, and if you have any rmt information it wont destroy tmo or change the entire server I don't think...

Just because the rmters share a guild tag doesnt mean over 200 people are involved.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Theres no point in doing all of this for attention, in 3 days without updates no one will even remember.

The entire mq2 thing just burned any sort of credibility you had with the community, i think, and if you have any rmt information it wont destroy tmo or change the entire server I don't think...

Just because the rmters share a guild tag doesnt mean over 200 people are involved.

The real problem here is that Roegan just told me that that hack cant be traced retroactively, so if anything I have only helped to cover it up even further... and I am sure there are lots of people in TMO who have NO idea about any of this. Only 2 (maybe 3) people are involved, and they are spearheading a large amount of the RMT.

Sirzen also told me a minute ago that he basically didn't care if RMT was happening because it 'kept people on the server'. I found that kind of strange, but whatever.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My only qualm about giving it directly to the staff is that it could potentially lead to more things being covered up.

Maybe i'm just naive, or drunk, but I have more faith in our gm's/devs than that.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real problem here is that Roegan just told me that that hack cant be traced retroactively, so if anything I have only helped to cover it up even further.

or you just helped spread it around because it can't be traced and people that figure out how to use it will use it with less fear of persecution. The staff can't observe every player all the time.

[Kesulos]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My only qualm about giving it directly to the staff is that it could potentially lead to more things being covered up.

I have a limited understanding of process of investigating and banning, but from what I took away from the stream is that much of the investigating is done by GMs like Ephi, and not the senior staff. If you claim it's the GMs that are corrupt, then release it to Sirken, who manages them. If you fear Sirken is the problem, release it to Rogean or Nilbog. If you think they are corrupt, you're screwed because they are as high up as it gets and at some point you need to put your trust in someone if you want any chance of anything being resolved.

I'm sure if you're accusing a specific GM of being corrupt, and you release evidence to support it to senior staff, the investigation will be handled by senior staff. It's not like they're going to give it back down the chain and be like "hey you're accused of corruption, please investigate yourself and get back to me." If that's the case, we're all screwed anyway then.

The bottom line is that unless you give them info without any preconditions, it's blackmail. That's not going to work here, it's been made clear.

I'd like to believe if you're being honest about what you have, you'll be rewarded for exposing it by the senior staff, and also respected among your peers here.

[Senthin]

He won't be compensated. I'm sure he already knows that.

Sirken wanted to say it, and he pretty much did at the end. When you take the route Systollic did to release this information, it was not okay. There were no 'Yeah we'll consider giving you your account back.' The only reason they didn't say it right away, they wanted to see how credible the information he had was, and if he actually had anything worth noting. If the person may have information you want and has a specific demand, even if you know you aren't giving in to that demand, you don't take it off the table right away

The resolution to this will be Systollic gives up the information, may get an IP ban lift, definitely no account restore, and maybe someone gets banned down the road after research is done.. Who knows.

Regardless, it was VERY entertaining, and reminded me of my old school EQ days of reading on forums about conspiracies. I had a good time listening to Tiggles stream, it was fun. Grats to Tiggles to making some money off of it, lol.

[Flamewraith]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe i'm just naive, or drunk, our gm's/devs than that.

This is about where I am.

[Lron]

I thought this guy did good with building suspense but I agree he needs to release the proof now or he will just be viewed as a troll.

Rogean and Sirken did a good job cutting through the BS.

I can not vote on the poll because I dont know. What i do know is that this was some class A drama and a great interview by tiggles once again.

If he thinks Rogean or Sirken are involved, or all the GMs are involved there really is no need for him to go through all of this because he would have no way of getting his toon back for sure if he released that information so my opinion is...

There is 1-2 corrupt GMs involved in RMT or he is completely full of shit.

These are the only 2 valid options.