EQ Next: Best of show at E3!

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A lot of stuff called 'quests' in mmorpg's nowadays shouldn't be, in my opinion. They are mostly just 'tasks'. run here, bring this, find these, kill that, now do it some more. Those aren't quests...quests are supposed to be something that is daunting and takes a long time and research and luck and staunch companions. Yknow, like in the movies. I like to think that the original EQ quests are more quest-like, and the zillions of teeny little 'quests' in WoW and I assume in EQII are more of the task variety.

I think the epics in EQ are still some of the best examples of actual quests worthy of the name you can find in any mmo.

Agreed.

WoW's version of epic quests are legendaries and are released one at a time, require consolidating all drops to a specific player, and are really nothing like EQ's epic quests.

Sure, lots of classes had bottleneck epics that required waiting in line within their guild, but in general people of different classes could all be working on and completing their epics at once.

[t0lkien]

Re. the "many quests" thing, it's irrelevant how many quests EQ did/didn't have. Questing isn't what the game was built around at all, and anyone who played it knows that. That's a function of XP reward, nothing else. The way to progress in EQ is to kill mobs. EQ2, I can't comment on as I lasted only a week in it, but to say the franchise is built around the number of quests offered is totally ignoring the game that started it.

WoW changed that by making completing quests by far the biggest XP earner, and so in one unintentional swoop turned MMOs into online single player games.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WoW changed that by making completing quests by far the biggest XP earner, and so in one unintentional swoop turned MMOs into online single player games.

In WoW Vanilla, I found it much faster to solo grind mobs (in carefully chosen areas which were away from PvP) from 50-60 than to attempt to quest. I know a ton of others who preferred instance grinding with a group than attempting to solo quest and deal with perpetual PvP (although that was fun sometimes).

Basically, Mannoroth was a high population PvP server with a crapton of roaming gankers and hit squads. You'd end up broiled in PvP before you could get any real questing done.

Which was cool sometimes. Other times it was damn annoying.

[t0lkien]

EQ's epic quests are the best single implementation of quests and reward in any game I've played (the Coldain Ring quest is up there also). They were inspired. As a friend said recently, getting his Ranger epic was a life achievement. Ok, he was being ironic - but only a little.

[TarukShmaruk]

Originally Posted by t0lkien [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ's epic quests are the best single implementation of quests and reward in any game I've played (the Coldain Ring quest is up there also). They were inspired. As a friend said recently, getting his Ranger epic was a life achievement. Ok, he was being ironic - but only a little.

Personally I think the design of triggering a mob that is specific to the epic quest is ideal. Show up with a bunch of people willing to help you, take down a challenging mob, get the piece.

Packing items on to normal raid targets sucks (unless raids are instanced).

[Pringles]

MMORPG.com also gave SWTOR an award in 2011.... and it sucks. http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/5294

Just sayin....

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Pringles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

MMORPG.com also gave SWTOR an award in 2011.... and it sucks. http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/5294

Just sayin....

They gave it most anticipated because...it was the most anticipated MMO the hype was unreal.

[Sarius]

But the wait makes the reward that much more gratifying

[Calibix]

Yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock into what mmorpg.com says. That being said however, my guild already has been confirmed for testing, so I am eagerly awaiting that.

[Hex]

Originally Posted by Calibix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, I wouldn't put too much stock into what mmorpg.com says. That being said however, my guild already has been confirmed for testing, so I am eagerly awaiting that.

Who gave you that confirmation?