Canine Discipline.

[India]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I'm not the only person, my father lets her go wild and it drives me NUTS but theres nothing i can do about it.

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Talk to a trainer and use that as your backup, then talk to you dad.

Take your dad with you to the trainer on the second visit (or even the first visit)

Kennel the dog, if needed and explain to your dad why (the dog needs discipline, parameters, etc.)

Dependent on the trainers recommendations, you may need to learn how to properly use a shock collar and have your dad learn too - With this, there is consistent reinforcement from all members of the family, which kind of sounds where one of your struggles might be.

There's a whole host of things you can probably do for your dogs benefit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Though ya I get it, it's going to be more challenging because of your father. You'll be training him too! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by India [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just responding to this part [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Talk to a trainer and use that as your backup, then talk to you dad.

Take your dad with you to the trainer on the second visit (or even the first visit)

Kennel the dog, if needed and explain to your dad why (the dog needs discipline, parameters, etc.)

Dependent on the trainers recommendations, you may need to learn how to properly use a shock collar and have your dad learn too - With this, there is consistent reinforcement from all members of the family, which kind of sounds where one of your struggles might be.

There's a whole host of things you can probably do for your dogs benefit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Though ya I get it, it's going to be more challenging because of your father. You'll be training your father too! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He's so old fashioned he simply doesnt believe in it, i mean if hes sick as a dog puking he wont take medicine becuase he doesnt believe in it.

and its not like a shack in the woods =p

its an old farmstead with a HUGE farmhouse, my brothers house etc. our land is fields mostly not like sticks and branches hanging over our heads =p

[Sirken]

so much stupid in this thread.

1) unless your dog is use to cats, its going to go after cats. you can not undo evolution. Spike eats Tom, Tom eats Jerry. tell people to keep cats out of your yard and get a "Beware of Dog" sign, for your yard.

2) Cats belong in the house, anyone that lets their cat run outside is a fucking idiot, and deserves whatever happens to their cat (be it a dog, or a car, or a racoon, or abduction, or even another cat since they fight each other ALL THE TIME).

3) who is to say the cat did not take a swipe at the dog, and legitimately deserved what happened. Cats attack things WAY more often than dogs. but i guess its ok for cats to inherently be mass murderers, as well as not listen to a fucking thing that a person says.

4) people that expect a dog to be put down for attacking a cat are the dumbest fucking people on the planet.


PS- since its your brothers cat ( i think i read that ), it should be ok. as far as future incidents, i dont think you should worry about it. THE ONLY time i would worry is if the dog tried to go after a person. But a dog going after a cat (especially a cat on its "home" turf) is completely normal, as Dogs are extremely territorial.

Good Luck!

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Cats belong in the house, anyone that lets their cat run outside is a fucking idiot, and deserves whatever happens to their cat (be it a dog, or a car, or a racoon, or abduction, or even another cat since they fight each other ALL THE TIME).

This

Every serious animal welfare group, veterinarian group, etc says cats belong in the house. You are cutting your supposedly beloved pet's lifespan down drastically by letting it outside. There is no reason to let your cat outside, if your cat is bored it's because you suck as a cat owner.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Ghettotastic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree, I don't think it's normal for a dog to kill a cat. I would even bet that over 80% of the dogs in the world would not kill a cat if they were put in the same room alone together

ok, try that 10 times with 10 different dogs and cats, and lemme know how it works out for you.

read this again, but slower this time. these arent opinions;

1) unless your dog is use to cats, its going to go after cats. you can not undo evolution. Spike eats Tom, Tom eats Jerry. tell people to keep cats out of your yard and get a "Beware of Dog" sign, for your yard.

2) Cats belong in the house, anyone that lets their cat run outside is a fucking idiot, and deserves whatever happens to their cat (be it a dog, or a car, or a racoon, or abduction, or even another cat since they fight each other ALL THE TIME).

3) who is to say the cat did not take a swipe at the dog, and legitimately deserved what happened. Cats attack things WAY more often than dogs. but i guess its ok for cats to inherently be mass murderers, as well as not listen to a fucking thing that a person says.

4) people that expect a dog to be put down for attacking a cat are the dumbest fucking people on the planet.

PS- since its your brothers cat ( i think i read that ), it should be ok. as far as future incidents, i dont think you should worry about it. THE ONLY time i would worry is if the dog tried to go after a person. But a dog going after a cat (especially a cat on its "home" turf) is completely normal, as Dogs are extremely territorial.

[Rhambuk]

Thanks sirk, not sure who started it though im sure my dog wanted to chase it.

Either way that cat did a number on my dog, tip of her ear torn open, her nose, top of her head, her cheek all scratched to shit. Gave her a bath after and not 20 minutes her face and head are soaked in blood. Her own

[Hitchens]

Dog probably went up to sniff cat's butt, cat puffed up and swiped dog's face.

That's what cats do.

[Swish]

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Alright, well people are entitled to their opinions. I don't see why people want dogs that are inherently violent...someone mentioned they have a golden retriever. A decent placcid breed that doesn't want to kill anything. Why own a pitbull? As mentioned its bred to fight...fuck that.

Cats are outdoor animals, they roam where they can do so without restriction. Usually cats won't go into a neighbour's back yard/garden if they know there's a dog waiting. A cat's health is actually affected if you keep it indoors all its life.

Nobody gives a shit though. How about if my dog escapes into your back yard and kills your dog... problem? Or will you throw your hands up (like you're doing now) and say "it happens man". I wonder...

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Alright, well people are entitled to their opinions. I don't see why people want dogs that are inherently violent...someone mentioned they have a golden retriever. A decent placcid breed that doesn't want to kill anything. Why own a pitbull? As mentioned its bred to fight...fuck that.

As I've said this is the very first sign of actual aggression, and I didnt even see the encounter as i said she was probably playing and went to far...

In 2 years shes never growled at a person, never snapped at another animal, never even showed her teeth to me when i raise my hand. The only time she gets "aggressive" is in defense when other dogs come up to her and cause problems, and I discipline her for being aggressive in that situation.

In my life she has been the most friendly and loving dog i have ever seen, i'm not just saying that because shes my dog i've had like 5 dogs in my life and shes definitely not my favorite =p
but i have never once seen event a glint of mean in her eye. I'm just tired of people saying pittbulls are killers, end. like we should just exterminate the breed.

[Hitchens]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody gives a shit though. How about if my dog escapes into your back yard and kills your dog... problem? Or will you throw your hands up (like you're doing now) and say "it happens man". I wonder...

I would have a problem with that, but I wouldn't have a problem with the dog. I'd have a problem with you for being a shitty dog owner.