So when did everyone make 100 alts to camp every raid target at once?

[Raavak]

I think it's being blown out of proportion. On Live you would occasionally get someone in a pick up group that didn't know their class. Or was really lame (I remember a monk puller on Live not returning after several minutes, so I went out and found them fd and afk in an empty hall). I think you could E-bay characters early on in Live? I dunno, anyway, if someone sucks, leave the group, or if everyone else agrees tell them to beat it. Most of us are older now with more responsibilities and have less time to waste on deadweight.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you could E-bay characters early on in Live?

Yes you could, and plat sales were a regular feature as well. I can't remember who I sold my Live account to but it was after the banhammer on eBay got dropped, had to do it through a third party site.

[Thulack]

All i'm saying is when account trading gets banned inflation will be huge. People thought it was bad over the last month or 2. What does everyone think people are gonna do with their plat they have from not buying accounts? Buy all the twink gear they can for all the toons they want to level up and then pay people to PL them. Any zone with good XP is gonna be gone for casual players to use. Personally i buy/sell accounts because its easy to flip them and make a profit. To each their own.

[myriverse]

You mean I get to sell my HQ Bear Skins for 2kpp? Cool!

[Sinlea]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another thing is that I relied on groups exclusively in order to advance my character (get XP) on live. I knew that if I wanted to not stay LFG for hours then I better be good at my class role in the group and have a decent rep. Not only is rep irrelevant here, but there are more Fungi Tunics than actual players on the server. Fungi Tunic was completely unheard of on live.. Whenever I saw someone wearing one it was jaw dropping.

I only played up until a few months into Luclin, but someone bought my Fungi tunic (on live, NOT here) for $500, and as a 13 or 14 year old or however old I was that was fucking awesome. Although I'm against RMT here and now because it's just lame. But yeah, if it had been as common as it is here, I would not have gotten that much money.

And the rep thing is an issue too. People that sucked or were douchebags on live were either driven off the server, had to start over, or just had a shitty time.

All i'm saying is when account trading gets banned inflation will be huge. People thought it was bad over the last month or 2. What does everyone think people are gonna do with their plat they have from not buying accounts? Buy all the twink gear they can for all the toons they want to level up and then pay people to PL them. Any zone with good XP is gonna be gone for casual players to use. Personally i buy/sell accounts because its easy to flip them and make a profit. To each their own.

I suck at math and this probably doesn't make sense anyhow, but couldn't they decrease everyone's plat by a certain percentage? I don't know if that works either because I guess some people are still going to be ridiculously rich compared to others.

Really wish there was some solution to this other than "RESET THE SERVER!", because it's not cool for those of us who've worked hard for our shit without cheating and buying accounts. Also, it would be a MASSIVE clusterfuck, there were not this many people here at the beginning of the server, picturing all of us leveling at once... ugh.

I think GM's should stop account trading/selling NOW while they figure shit out, because it's only going to get worse.

[Bidoof]

Originally Posted by Sinlea [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I suck at math and this probably doesn't make sense anyhow, but couldn't they decrease everyone's plat by a certain percentage? I don't know if that works either because I guess some people are still going to be ridiculously rich compared to others.

Reducing everyone's platinum at the same time only makes it "easier" to keep track of money, but does nothing to combat inflation. I think of the example of Mexico's Nuevo Peso, but its pretty much the same as when people say "85k" instead of "85,000". Its just lopping off zeros to make it easier for everyone counting.

Say we reduced everyone's plat by 90%, so if I had 10k, I now have 1k. I still have the same currency value, since 1k of the New Platinum would be worth 10k of the Old Platinum. Items would be listed in New Platinum prices, but that would correlate to Old Platinum values.

[SirAlvarex]

Originally Posted by Bidoof [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reducing everyone's platinum at the same time only makes it "easier" to keep track of money, but does nothing to combat inflation. I think of the example of Mexico's Nuevo Peso, but its pretty much the same as when people say "85k" instead of "85,000". Its just lopping off zeros to make it easier for everyone counting.

Say we reduced everyone's plat by 90%, so if I had 10k, I now have 1k. I still have the same currency value, since 1k of the New Platinum would be worth 10k of the Old Platinum. Items would be listed in New Platinum prices, but that would correlate to Old Platinum values.

The only difference is that the platinum gained through normal means (farming gems) would stay consistent, thus giving platinum a "higher worth". So the influx of new plat stays the same, while the total current platinum levels have been lowered, thus making "new plat" effectively worth more.

With that said I do not support the artificial deflation of plat. Give plat sinks in the game for no longer dropped items. Hell, if you had a vendor that sold pre-nerf fungi staffs you'd probably see 2-5 million plat out of the economy within an hour...

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Bidoof [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Say we reduced everyone's plat by 90%, so if I had 10k, I now have 1k. I still have the same currency value, since 1k of the New Platinum would be worth 10k of the Old Platinum. Items would be listed in New Platinum prices, but that would correlate to Old Platinum values.

I see where you're going with it, but if a skeleton in Kurn's Tower still drops 2pp in coins...you'll find difficulty holding the value of that 1k.

[Sinlea]

Give plat sinks in the game for no longer dropped items. Hell, if you had a vendor that sold pre-nerf fungi staffs you'd probably see 2-5 million plat out of the economy within an hour...

How is that different though? Everyone would have a pre-nerf fungi staff and then everyone would be leveling their alts and stuff with it. I say throw in some illusion items or novelty items that were added later on in the game, stuff that isn't around right now, so that people who have like, a troll or de guise, for example, still get to be somewhat unique because they won that contest or whatever. There's gotta be other stuff people would buy.

Can GMs "make" items that didn't already exist in the game? Like a potion that turns you into a little tiny CT or something for a day. Or like a Vah Shir illusion, I dunno, I'm just throwing out random stuff here.

[Swish]

I forget who but someone suggested a custom title, or guises or something else in exchange for a massive chunk of plat....something like 250k or so.

I think it would work as a stopgap at least, drain some of the plat out of the economy. I wonder if there's 1 billion plat on the server as it stands?