Please people learn how to play pet classes.

[Lazortag]

I have a hotkey that mezzes and tells my group that I'm mezzing the target. 25% of the time people attack it anyway while the tank is attacking another enemy. I honestly wonder why I ever group anymore.

[Volga]

I didn't know that back off wiped the hate list, thanks for the post - I will be a better Necro for it.

[Vexden]

Originally Posted by Volga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't know that back off wiped the hate list, thanks for the post - I will be a better Necro for it.

People that can admit they can still learn something makes this post completely worth my time, thank you.

[Adso]

Originally Posted by Vexden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People that can admit they can still learn something makes this post completely worth my time, thank you.

Keep up the good fight Vex... it's a shame this thread is in R&F, lots of learning to be had in here.

[Coalrymer]

Wait... People play pet class' that don’t even know how to play them?

Such.. blaspheme.. it’s just... blasphemous... the blasphemy....

/cough

Seriously, though, if you don't learn to play with your pet before you group up with people. The class may not be best for you. Also if a chanter is mezzing mobs and announces it, and a pet is breaking it. It's two peoples fault. The pet owner for being blind/inattentive. The enchanters, for being too stupid casting it more than one time while its being hit.

Personally if I mez something and a pet breaks it. I let the pet die, and then mez it. Every chanter has their own play style. But the pet is the pet owners responsibility. If you can't handle your pet, learn or quit.

Just my coppers... /cough

[Landis]

Originally Posted by Coalrymer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally if I mez something and a pet breaks it. I let the pet die, and then mez it.

except when the pet breaks mez, it will aggro the enchanter. ok so you root it onto the pet. then root breaks since the mob is taking damage and it comes after you and rapes you for max damage since you were medding. rinse & repeat.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Coalrymer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally if I mez something and a pet breaks it. I let the pet die, and then mez it. Every chanter has their own play style. But the pet is the pet owners responsibility. If you can't handle your pet, learn or quit.

If it were this easy I'd definitely agree with you (bad necros/mages really need to be taught a lesson!) but most of the time the mezzed mob just goes after whoever mezzed, not whoever broke mez, as was already said. Additionally I can see why someone might keep on mezzing if they were hopeful that their group mates aren't dumb-dumbs who don't understand what "/g Mezzing %t - Don't touch!" means, and maybe just broke mez once accidentally.

[frefaln]

Originally Posted by Coalrymer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously, though, if you don't learn to play with your pet before you group up with people.

But that's the catch-22 here. When you're in a group it's a whole new ball game, no amount of solo experimentation is going to prepare a lowbie for group dynamics. At lowbie camps we all just need to expect and tolerate a little bit of chaos and BS.

However, if a chanter is telling them what they're doing wrong and they cop an attitude or ignore it, that's when you've got a problem.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by Vexden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I say pets, I am meaning any controllable pet, (unlike the Enchanter Pet)

Necro Pets
Mage Pets
Shaman Pets
Charmed Pets

I am wondering how many people actually know how to control their pet.

In the beginning, lower levels, this doesn't matter and I am wondering if this is why so many people I group with fight with me about this topic.

Being an Enchanter for many levels, many servers, I have had hit or miss on pug groups and people controlling their pets. I am not going to worry about how they used to work, as there have been many little tweaks to help us Enchanters when it comes to breaking our mez. I am only going to talk about how it works now.

First off let me say for those who don't know, MEZ has a HUGE aggro modifier. If a mob is Mezzed and then not broken by either A) mind wipe working applied first or B) by a Tank that knows how to break Mez then you are going to have a mob beating the crap out of the Enchanter.

What on earth could make this worse? A rampage pet that has a hatelist built up. Let me explain.

You're in a group, and a puller pulls 4 mobs. While the Enchanter locks down the 3 mobs (minus the 4th that the tank should now have aggro on) a lot of things can happen. Lets say for instance you assist and send the pet to beat on the one mob that the tank currently is on. While that pet is killing that mob, the other 3 mobs can do things to aggro that pet (even though the pet is still beating on the mob it was told to). A mob can cast an AE, it can heal, it can buff, it can actually physically hit the pet (or its owner) (all the while the pet is still being good and beating on the origional mob it was told to).

Now all is so far good, the Enchanter now has the 3 mobs on ice, and the 1st mob might be almost dead at this point. Here is where the Enchanters nightmare starts. Once that 1st mob dies, the pet that remembering all of the things that has happened during that time will now check its own hatelist. It then will go after which mob it wants to next on its own, and without any intervention from its owner, it will break mez. What makes things worse is if the tank breaks a different mob than the pet thinks should be next. So now you have 1 mob that the tank is on, and one mob that is beating the crap out of your enchanter, even if you mez this mob, the pet will keep breaking mez. (In a perfect senario, the mob would stop attacking after the mez, but this isn't always the case).

So this is how a Pet class should control his or her own pet.

After everything has been locked down (on ice, mezzed whatever), the owner of a pet should do the /pet back off command, and just reissue the /assist /pet attack command. When you do the pet back off, it wipes the hatelist from the pet so it will not break mez.

The reason for this post is because I am sick of being made out to be the "jerk" for telling someone how to control their pet. Even the ones that say they have 10 years of expierence playing their pet class. (And then afterwards complain in their guild chat about me for an hour)

Sorry for the Novel,

Discuss.

-Vexden


*edit* Thinking about this, it went from informational to a Rant, move to the section if needed.

I've forcefully tried breaking mez with my pet and I get the 'Sorry master, I am unable to awaken <target>" message, so you've got your facts wrong somewhere.

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by darkblade717 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've forcefully tried breaking mez with my pet and I get the 'Sorry master, I am unable to awaken <target>" message, so you've got your facts wrong somewhere.

You obviously missed the entire point of the message. You're part of the problem.