Rangers in Velious?

[Elmarnieh]

The defense cap issue only really pertains to mobs of levels greater to 51, lower than that rangers that focus on ac can tank mobs lower than the rangers level well. The majority of my time in Karnors 51-56 was spent in the roll of tank. Druids could heal me, shaman could heal me, clerics were bored of healing me.

I sometimes tank in sebilis though the defense cap issue is much more clearly revealed in sebilis and I try not to tank even cons or greater.

In groups we are very useful unless the group has a perfect balance, even then one LD tank and who is tanking, the cleric, the enchanter, or the rogue? Enchanter dies or LD, flame lick aggro and root park 3 mobs, then tank them down one by one.

In raids the tanks are defined and rangers become dps with utility. Moving to next target the ranger can toss a regen on their necro and patch heal people up to save the cleric's time, mana, and concentration.

You can build a "perfect" group warrior ench cleric rogue rogue rogue but it has very little flexibility if one of the trinity drops, and thats if you can find all of those available. In the real world xp and farming groups are usually made up of what is available and in those situations rangers are a great addition that provides a lot of flexibility to resist changing circumstances.

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you're in velious and your raid's spot healers are calling LoM partially into a 300k hp fight from the massive AE damage all the melee are taking, you can step right out of range and comfortably shoot with your bow until heals catch up. Sure you don't have AA's and it's not as good as hack and slash, but live dps>dead dps.

Direct your attention to the Ventani the Warder encounter if you still think rangers will be useless [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In all seriousness during a velious fight where healers are having mana problems no cleric would heal a ranger what so ever.

You will put some news buffs on people you will track mobs and you will use weaponshield to position mobs for other classes then die.

After that you could log off because you won't make a difference.

[fadetree]

What do you mean by good? If you mean any DPS=good, well then sure. If you mean hugely better than any other melee class, then no. Well ok, you can out-dps plate classes on a pretty regular basis, but monks & rogues will usually blow you away.

[maverixdamighty]

most dps will want call of the predator ( i think that was the name) and tanks want the paladin hp buff in velious.

[webrunner5]

All the TRUE tanks really don't do that much DPS. They are there to hold agro and get beat on. Pretty much your job.

[Deverell]

Warriors can do pretty decent DPS if they don't have to tank.

[Duckforceone]

oh they became quite good..

but we aren't going to get those abilities here that fixes it.. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pscottdai]

A Ranger walks into a bar ... "LOADING PLEASE WAIT"

[Jaxsz]

Originally Posted by Pscottdai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A Ranger walks into a bar ... "LOADING PLEASE WAIT"

Well yeah, it has to load the zone with the bar.

What next?!

[webrunner5]

Malone88 you can talk to you are blue in the face. No one wants a Ranger or a Wizard in a group if there is anyone else LFG. And even if not they will stay with 5 people in it on average. You are fighting a loosing battle on here that you will never win. They suck ass. My Druid can pull and CC as good or better than a Ranger. And do a Ton more things. Why have one. Druids DD are no slouch either or Dots. With CII I can nuke some pretty good damage and keep it up.