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Old 03-09-2015, 10:59 AM
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Even with unresistable dots people can still easily make it to zone lines. This only covers 2 of the bard's 5 dots.

Denon's is 50 PR treshhold
lvl 60 Dot is still resistable
MR Chant is VERY resistable.

So let's keep focus on the fact that NOT all the bard dots are currently unresistable.

Bards will have very little ability to generate pressure going forward.

Prior to these changes we've seen many videos where an iksar with a fungi outregens bard twisting dots.

Bards have no damage output without unresistable dots.

This change was fitting, as it didn't impact large scale PVP and made the bard be able to actually have a decent fight VS a geared target.

Prior to unresistable (2)dots, if you encountered a VP type geared enemy with decent resists. You basically knew it wasn't gonna be going anywhere.
who cares? this isn't a custom server, it's Project 1999. Can we keep this on point please to making this classic. Bard DOTs rarely landed on live. We're not here to balance class strengths a la Warcraft. Go play Arenas if that's what ur here for.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:02 AM
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Even with unresistable dots people can still easily make it to zone lines. This only covers 2 of the bard's 5 dots.

Denon's is 50 PR treshhold
lvl 60 Dot is still resistable
MR Chant is VERY resistable.

So let's keep focus on the fact that NOT all the bard dots are currently unresistable.

Bards will have very little ability to generate pressure going forward.

Prior to these changes we've seen many videos where an iksar with a fungi outregens bard twisting dots.

Bards have no damage output without unresistable dots.

This change was fitting, as it didn't impact large scale PVP and made the bard be able to actually have a decent fight VS a geared target.

Prior to unresistable (2)dots, if you encountered a VP type geared enemy with decent resists. You basically knew it wasn't gonna be going anywhere.

Let's stay focused here.. it takes a great deal of effort to keep these 2 dots up. It's not like you are planting a bane , breath of ro, or winged death. You are planting a dot that does minute damage and is over in 3 ticks. The only way that you can make something out of it, is by remaining evasive and still managing to twist it, while swapping to the proper instrument. These chants are FAR from a freebie.
bard = support class
selos + resist songs

sorry that r99 is your first ever experience with the game but you are very misinformed

also, every bard chant is unresistable, angstalichs screech or w/e is unresistable, do you even play bard? everything in this post is wrong
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:03 AM
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also, every bard chant is unresistable, angstalichs screech or w/e is unresistable, do you even play bard? everything in this post is wrong
That is incorrect.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:04 AM
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lol ok

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do you even play bard?
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:05 AM
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who cares? this isn't a custom server, it's Project 1999. Can we keep this on point please to making this classic.
Plenty of things here are kept non classic in order to improve the server. Don't know where you are going with this.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:06 AM
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I am new to these pvp bug forums, so please update me if trolling is allowed. Rip the Jacka's behavior is a bit misleading and detrimental to actual meaningful dialogue towards improving an issue.

For staff (Only Fire and Cold Dots are unresistable.)
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:13 AM
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I am new to these pvp bug forums, so please update me if trolling is allowed. Rip the Jacka's behavior is a bit misleading and detrimental to actual meaningful dialogue towards improving an issue.

For staff (Only Fire and Cold Dots are unresistable.)
Your accusing me of trolling because I countered your biased comment to keep bards an offensive class with unresistable spells?

Sorry, but in game on red99 live, fire cold AND angstalichs are all unresistable.

Don't be a baby and stop trying to manipulate.

Since you've apparently never seen the pvp bug section before, I encourage you to look at all of the classic evidence that exists here regarding Bards and PvP. If you still think they should behave the way you want them to, find evidence to support it, that's how it works here.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:17 AM
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Sorry, but in game on red99 live, fire cold AND angstalichs are all unresistable.
Originally you were saying ALL chants are unresistable. That includes the magic chant which is absolutely resistable, so you were incorrect regarding that. I am glad you've now changed your original statement to reflect that.

Angstalichs can be resisted, that's just something you are flat out incorrect about.

Who is your bard on red 99 exactly ? I have people resist this all the time and I am the most seasoned bard on red99.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:27 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBEPUOiLcfo

Please become better informed before making inaccurate statements. This back and forth was super unnecessary.

With it being settled that Anglich is in fact resistible. I will say that it should be a little more difficult to land than the way it is right now.
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Old 03-09-2015, 11:45 AM
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Plenty of things here are kept non classic in order to improve the server. Don't know where you are going with this.
What has been changed outside of clickies in PvP to "balance" PvP beyond what was classic?
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