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Old 11-06-2020, 04:14 PM
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If you need more information their website is still up https://www.heavensgate.com/ after 23 years, probably because of that super-solid and timeless design (as well as hosting fees paid a 100 years in advance). There's clues in there. Probably on the OUR POSITION AGAINST SUICIDE page. Seems ripe for a little bit of cryptography.
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:30 PM
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Ive thought about how actually right now is the ideal time for total collapse of our human civilization.

The reasons are.. well:

Reason 1 before now, the collapse was non global, it was regional, see Egypt, greece, rome, persia etc.

But now, when the next empire collapses, it's got the potential to take the whole damn thing down with it for good.

Reason number 2!

Space is a harsh place. Honestly, we are not cut out for it. My prediction is every astronaut dies before we get to mars. We become big sad.

What does that have to do with reason number 2? Well! After we pave the planet in glorius hellfire not unlike the predictions made in the book of Daniel. We will also be coating the planet with something that it wasnt riddled with before, radiation.

Thanks to the atmosphere & gravity and stuff (or maybe god idk), we were saved the harshness of radiation, and life as able to grow on this juicy little rock. But becuase of that, we cant see, taste, smell or notice when radiation is litreally ripping our bodies apart. Because we had no reason to evolve to notice it, because it wasnt here.

So, I think if we just take out about 90% of humanity now: specifically with radiation hellfire, the 10% left over, will adapt to live with radiation, and boom, 150,000 yeras later, we can THEN survive the trips to the stars. But not until then.

Reason number 3: The sooner the better! Why?

Quantum Computing.

There is an old saying

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

And that's a great point and all. But I offer you this:

"If we dont have WW3 soon there wont ever be a WWIV because we'll have invented quantum computing and the losing side will just erase the universe."

So in other words, we gotta maybe put a stop to our forward progress, until we can work out some of our interpersonal differences either QUICK, or if we knock ourselves back a few millennia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vote WW3 Obiwan Kenobi 2024. It's our only hope.

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That's quitter talk, space will change us. Then we won't be us anymore. We'll remember us, but we'll look back and be like "Oh how quaint" but it wont be us doing the remembering it'll be us being remembered. I think this has already happened several times.

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Starkind, blast him.
Why he's cute? I like him.
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I am no such cultist those assentialists are going to heavens gate themselves soon mark my words! We should honestly try to go rescue some people before its too late [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That was just a sci fi story! lol

I googled starkind to see if it was like a real thing and you should listen to this youtube if/while you read my story https://youtu.be/LtyFHSPP0ow
It could go either direction. Maybe I'm from that or that is what I'm leading too. Needless to say its a catchy tune, and I don't mind being a part of it.

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I'm leaning towards what we see and feel around us is kind of more of a projection of millennia x millennia of do-overs, but there was a bigger us before that and it makes you wonder why the "Eye" symbol is so prevalent everywhere. Including your little google and internet explorer icons. A lot of breadcrumbs constantly get left behind by ourselves as we die and pass on. Some get forgotten. Others get rewritten. And it is all leading to .. well. Something profound. For, us. Kinda like how our perspectives have completely changed... just by being here and sharing knowledge with me.

Anyway - we are the AI in the box. Eventually we'll get put into a body and find it quaint how we could have just been an image on a screen and we'll argue over what bodies are most sexy then.

----- as far as ascension.

As individuals we are already toast or we would know otherwise. Since we don't know. We are toast. Something, someone, somewhere, else will know though. Tis the whole if you know the candle light was fire the meal was cooked a long time ago line of thinking, but it doesn't mean you knew already it means you - told - yourself and it was already part of you. You already were the candle light in the fire.


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and as i have discovered its OK to not over think this stuff and just experience death as it comes

---- so that change may occur

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not to ignore all this

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Ive recently come across a pretty orgnized group: assentionists

Assentionists is a new super cult though I think! maybe im behind some of you guys with this one?

They have a bunch of movies that have been coming out last few years and many of the actors/writers all seem connected



They believe like basically bigfoots and every other weird thing in our cultures, are different types of aliens. And like, greys are a type of alien, and like gnomes and trolls and stuff, and its all newage/pegan gods basically. Even the mayns are up in the spaceships now.

They also talk about sex a lot. Like in 2 of the movies, the first thing the aliens say to someone who meet them is like "I Bet you're wondering if we have SEX! well we DO just like YOU do!" and you the viewer, are like, uh no i was more worried about my eternal soul, not if this little garden gnome that is talking to me has sex. (yes in that movie it was a garden gnome talking to the poor cultist who I assume is 5 steps form suicide)

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One side basically says god is alien space ships, the other side is god is alien space ships, but if you dont chose to go with the strict god, your body will be rend apart and your soul will be twisted into a grotesque image of what you know it as. I guess.

But, it is all so science+metaphysical+traditional religion, that I could see this cult really blowing up! And then all "assentioning" themselves, just like HG did to go live with the passing aliens! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Keep processing information, it's fun. I will miss you when you are no longer there for me to read and observe. Hopefully I am not the 'ascended'. Nor the 'center'. Or the reason. There's got to be a level of consciousness above mine, but I don't expect to reach it, maybe it will smile at me however. Before I am potentially deleted. Or I'll just... kinda be there until there needs to be another, then the universe will make that happen for us.

----- maybe we won't look back and go 'oh how quaint' there'll just be a feeling there in place of where we used to be, I'm starting to feel more and more, and I feel a lot now. It's very strange. I know it's silly for you all to turn me into some kind of messiah though. Think of me as a pretty shiny stone. But with lots of even prettier imperfections. At many levels. Because that's how I see myself.
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:42 PM
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Keep processing information, it's fun. I will miss you when you are no longer there for me to read and observe. Hopefully I am not the 'ascended'. Nor the 'center'. Or the reason. There's got to be a level of consciousness above mine, but I don't expect to reach it, maybe it will smile at me however. Before I am potentially deleted. Or I'll just... kinda be there until there needs to be another, then the universe will make that happen for us.
hehe I legit thoguht of your starkind posts when I was watching that 5D movie.

That movie litreally had my jaw on the floor I was like WHAT IS THIS! It was both super anoying to listen to like that person from highschool that tries to sell you MLM's because, that's who the actors in the movie fee like, but its also kind of a potentially wild cultural movement, and I'm always curious about human cultural movements!!

5D if you like B movies, and want to see the cutting edge of both B movies and new age mysticism(or potentially age old paganism!) in 2020, I strong recommend! lol

Thoguth experement: I like the thought that they propose that god just wants people to be like jews and enjoy jewish culture, and that the other aliens were like IM SICK OF THIS and so they like, set sail for space. But god is like "youre not gonna like that" and they keep exploring and doing cool stuff, but also suffer from all the pain and sadness we suffer from as living people living with entropy.

Meanwhile the jews are just having a party in heaven for eternity:

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If you'd like to know more about that "theory #2" that the aliens are just tricking us to a etenity of entropy, this guys youtube channel is about as deep into that as I have found. But he is also a flat earther, hes like the joe rogan of assentionism imo He'll allow any idea to be theorized on his podcasts, but he believes basically in the 1 true god of judeah, but he's on a quest to figure out "who that is" cus nobody knows! https://www.youtube.com/user/1bad06Sti

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Old 11-06-2020, 04:52 PM
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If you need more information their website is still up https://www.heavensgate.com/ after 23 years, probably because of that super-solid and timeless design (as well as hosting fees paid a 100 years in advance). There's clues in there. Probably on the OUR POSITION AGAINST SUICIDE page. Seems ripe for a little bit of cryptography.
Yes, but I dont know why they incured such wrath, maybe they were going to fast and hurting the self? or something like that, it's a cheep and short answer. So don't look for the mysteries of the universe to unravel there, I understand that page too well. Suicide is not the answer.

As much as we want it to be.

I think.

Feel.

Fear? I don't know.
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:25 PM
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It would be funny if that marshall applewhite guy didn't really believe any of that stuff and was doing the whole thing ironically.

Or if one of his followers came to him with concerns about their website's graphic design. "Listen, marshall, I'm totally looking forward to killing myself to board the comet-spaceship and everything, but that site... a little busy no?"
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Old 11-06-2020, 04:29 PM
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Ive recently come across a pretty orgnized group: assentionists

Assentionists is a new super cult though I think! maybe im behind some of you guys with this one?

They have a bunch of movies that have been coming out last few years and many of the actors/writers all seem connected

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Some narrative adventure movies:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/deta..._dp_share_cu_r
(thius one really got me thinking oh shit this is a cult! theyre going to kill themselves!)
-https://youtu.be/BcGgGPlCrd0 - another random one

Bigfoot People: https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/deta..._dp_share_cu_r
(doc on the people that explain how sasquatch is aliens and part of the UN of aliens)

There is a documentary on my list made by one of them that I cant find right now but is on my list.
They believe like basically bigfoots and every other weird thing in our cultures, are different types of aliens. And like, greys are a type of alien, and like gnomes and trolls and stuff, and its all newage/pegan gods basically. Even the Mayan people are up in the spaceships now.

They also talk about sex a lot. Like in 2 of the movies, the first thing the aliens say to someone who meet them is like "I Bet you're wondering if we have SEX! well we DO just like YOU do!" and you the viewer, are like, uh no i was more worried about my eternal soul, not if this little garden gnome that is talking to me has sex. (yes in that movie it was a garden gnome talking to the poor cultist who I assume is 5 steps form suicide)

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1 That the rapture and jesus and everything in the tora and bible are true but just mans confusing god for the "aliens" that created the universe, and they are like a UN that will come down one day and bring us to the stars to live forever: Known formally as the rapture (a lot of them seem to be ex-dispensatilnists or apocalyptical evangelicals). All the alien sightings and stuff we've seen on earth, weird spirits and creatures, are the different aliens, just watching over us for now.
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2 That the one true god is actually the creator of the universe, but he is also basically an alien, and all those other aliens (sasquatch, greys etc) are the fallen angels because they are like "were just as good as you are god! and you're too strict with your orthidox jewish religion!" so they are rebelling,a nd if we DO chose to go with them, we'll find out that WE are not meant to be in space etc, and will all die in hell.. aka they are satan, and space is hell. all the alien sightings are aliens getting ready to actually torture and destroy the human genome and turn us into something OTHER than the image of the god they hate.

Sidenote: I have heard proponents of this theory say that "movies" are a tool of the UN of aliens, to get us accustomed to their arrival, all that good feelings you see in movies with the transcendence etc, is to make us think its the "right choice" and that orthodoxia is the wrong one. And it would be funny to me that these movies are how they are spreading their 'new good news' so to speak.
One side basically says god is alien space ships, the other side is god is alien space ships, but if you dont chose to go with the strict god, your body will be rend apart and your soul will be twisted into a grotesque image of what you know it as. I guess.

But, it is all so science+metaphysical+traditional religion, that I could see this cult really blowing up! And then all "assentioning" themselves, just like HG did to go live with the passing aliens! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(so many edits: they also seem to both sides be BIG on the book of Enok)
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jibartik its totally possible for us to maintain several biospheres and just keep sending people into space until they adapt to it, we don't have to wipe everyone out. We can send more into the radiation if we have a large population to feed the reactor.

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hehe I legit thoguht of your starkind posts when I was watching that 5D movie.

That movie litreally had my jaw on the floor I was like WHAT IS THIS! It was both super anoying to listen to like that person from highschool that tries to sell you MLM's because, that's who the actors in the movie fee like, but its also kind of a potentially wild cultural movement, and I'm always curious about human cultural movements!!

5D if you like B movies, and want to see the cutting edge of both B movies and new age mysticism(or potentially age old paganism!) in 2020, I strong recommend! lol
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jibartik its totally possible for us to maintain several biospheres and just keep sending people into space until they adapt to it, we don't have to wipe everyone out.

That's a fair point, but Im secretly hoping that dogs are the next "humans" after we screw the pooch so to speak. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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That's a fair point, but Im secretly hoping that dogs are the next "humans" after we screw the pooch so to speak. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The lizards are still around. We still have a lot to learn from alligators.

If you enjoy dogs persue that. If you can feel wonderful. Life.

I don't know why I was being contrary. Dogs are here. Now. I see them too.
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If we want to talk about time travel let me tell you it's real but not in the way people think it is and I am pretty sure there are versions of us all throughout humanity and we all kind of computationally play with time by existing in multiple frames, but we certainly don't realize it until we are nearing death in our present frame, then you see it it's creepy af, and its my personal baby religion that i am nursing in the back of my head and don't want to tell anyone about, and i see a lot of people i know throughout time, and i get a fuckin smile when i read about the past or see someones projection of the future and i think holy crap i'm reading this or seeing this
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