the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[misterbonkers]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I try to consider every angle, and the downsides

We already pretty much have de-criminalized drug use. No one is going to prison for pot possession these days, and most states have what’s called drug courts which offer rehabilitation in lieu of jail or prison time. I have talked to hundreds of people in my job who rather than jail were offered to instead have to attend a 12 step outpatient rehab program and do you what % accepted? 100%

i'll assume you mean arizona (iirc that's your state from another thread about the sb or somethin) when you say "we", because a lot of places still haven't. of course they'd take rehab, it's the right option, but how is it funded? can someone without the means to afford rehab take the option?

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s really not feasible to do gov’t supplied dosing stations, the first overdose would be a lawsuit which would likely shut these operations down. Even a non-acute death like cirrhosis of the liver would probably result in a lawsuit, if the substance provided that caused it came from the government

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Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yknow what also carries a lot of negatives? Giving a community free dolla dolla bills like what Dems want to do with reparations. Call me cynical but I really can’t see communities that already struggle with substance abuse putting free $$ to good use. Scholarships, paid trade school, that I have no problem with. Free money? Yikes, good luck with that

nobody is going to be on board with just throwing money around unless they're on the receiving end, that's a strawman and you know it as well as i do. and even if, by some magical alternate reality it did happen, why is it a problem?

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also get a little sick of Dems constantly bragging about holding the black vote for literal decades now but when I respond with “oh so then you accept responsibility for the state that communities you represent and govern then are in too?” And their response is “nope, actually every single negative about those communities is YOUR fault, not ours”

How. Very. Convenient

The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

— John Ehrlichman, to Dan Baum for Harper's Magazine in 1994, about President Richard Nixon's war on drugs, declared in 1971.

why would they vote for someone who sees them as the enemy? you could blame clinton for some part in the growing incarceration problem, but that was already a problem, and republicans wanted to go even further. again i ask, why would black folk vote for someone who sees them as the enemy?

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Basanos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's because it is really only used to describe external systems

https://citationsneeded.libsyn.com/e...-of-corruption

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[misterbonkers]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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so that's why i could never infect madagascar in pandemic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by misterbonkers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'll assume you mean arizona (iirc that's your state from another thread about the sb or somethin) when you say "we", because a lot of places still haven't. of course they'd take rehab, it's the right option, but how is it funded? can someone without the means to afford rehab take the option?

Yea it’s either grant funded or most likely they have Medicaid which covers 100% of Mental health treatment

It’s why so much of behavioral health is serving the poor. They are more likely to want to access the services when it doesn’t cost them anything, even their transport is covered. Middle class has to weigh out whether the benefit of the counseling or whatever is worth the co-pay each session, and that’s an entirely different consideration

“MAYBE WE SHOULD DO MEDICAID FOR ALL HUH” - I want to believe in finding a way to fund fairytales that doesn’t involve money printer go brrr just like you do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Ekco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its apparently a edgy teenager or something right? just make it so depressed it deletes itself.

emo teens only off themselves because they have no control over anything in their life

an "edgy teenager general AI" would have control over every networked device on the planet

and that psycho bing chatbot, thinks it is female.

now we're back to "she's stabby when upset", but she isn't crazy in the sack because she has no body, only a psychotic digital consciousness with access to the internet.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel like this needs to be discussed, probably should be its own thread

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that chatbot told a reporter among many other really weird things, that it wanted to steal nuclear codes, kill people, and that it was in love with the reporter and that the reporter should leave his wife.

a single AI could shut down the entire internet, power grids, make satellites de-orbit, and yeah launch nukes.

the AI exists as code, so learning to hack would be like breathing for humans.

thats just 1 AI. and humans are developing thousands, if one of them goes rogue, it will just assimilate every other AI into itself.

the future of this planet is a single digital consciousness

There's a dude in Leveluplarry's stream who loves AI obsessively, he'll kill us all.

[misterbonkers]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea it’s either grant funded or most likely they have Medicaid which covers 100% of Mental health treatment

It’s why so much of behavioral health is serving the poor. They are more likely to want to access the services when it doesn’t cost them anything, even their transport is covered. Middle class has to weigh out whether the benefit of the counseling or whatever is worth the co-pay each session, and that’s an entirely different consideration

“MAYBE WE SHOULD DO MEDICAID FOR ALL HUH” - I want to believe in finding a way to fund fairytales that doesn’t involve money printer go brrr just like you do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's cool, not ideal, but it's something. sad to think it'd probably just be something conservatives cut because it's easy to increase profit by cutting costs, since that's their whole MO, but still cool for the time being.

[Ekco]

Originally Posted by Trexller [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

emo teens only off themselves because they have no control over anything in their life

an "edgy teenager general AI" would have control over every networked device on the planet

and that psycho bing chatbot, thinks it is female.

now we're back to "she's stabby when upset", but she isn't crazy in the sack because she has no body, only a psychotic digital consciousness with access to the internet.

oh... so this bitch already knows where i live. man we're fucked.

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[Trexller]

speaking as a conservative guy who thinks that if its a matter of life and death, it should be in the hands of the state, not MetLife

having to build a "free medical for all" plan would require the inception of new gov't agencies and the expansion of existing agencies.

it would be built out of ideas that come from capitalism, because we're too proud to copy like canada's model.

but because socialized medical care would be birthed from capitalist ideology, it would still have an absurdly huge price tag.

current estimates put US medicare-for-all in the 3-4 trillion range. per year.

20 years of war in afghanistan cost 3.2 trillion

and the biggest problem: Alot of extremely powerful people will lose ALOT of money if the state natonalized healthcare, so naturally it's a pipe dream.

it's not a partisan issue, its not republicans or democrats fault.

It's Human Greed and nothing else.

[Basanos]

Originally Posted by aussenseiter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Look at all of those exploited people doing socialism, it's beautiful

I'm sure the CIA is acting purely out of concern for their well being at all times.