Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Jimjam]

In GoD a friend and I duoed KoS in PoSky, but needed our paladin for rez (he was wanting to switch main to necro and we liked to epic all our toons as much as possible).

Is KoS doable with low numbers on p99? Like with a 4 man caster group.

[Swish]

A-Team could do it.

[Troxx]

You’re still not doing that thing you said you could do. You stated you could name multiple camps that need a shaman.

Name one.

Just one.

I’m super curious here.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You’re still not doing that thing you said you could do. You stated you could name multiple camps that need a shaman.

Name one.

Just one.

I’m super curious here.

You need to read my previous post lol.

https://project1999.com/forums/showp...postcount=4822

Why do you keep not reading and asking the same question that's been answered? It makes you look silly.

[Ripqozko]

We really gonna hit 500, unbelievable

[Troxx]

Why do you keep posting a link to a post that references another post that doesn’t actually state any camp that needs/requires or for which a shaman is a necessity?

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have provided multiple camps where a Shaman would be better.

Better is subjective and debatable. That is what you said. Verbatim. You then went on to explain that a cleric will struggle with aoe’s and enchanter pets being dispelled without acknowledging that the shaman will still have to heal everyone and juggle the clerical duties when subbed in the place of the cleric.

Needs, requires or is a necessity for is more concrete and would not be debatable if true.

C’mon man. You said it. Cough it up or just admit what we all already know is true. You told a little lie to advance your argument.

Ps: As a snarky side giggle, if you are going to advocate for having a pocket cleric maybe I could advocate for every caster having 3 full bags of 10 dose wort potions so they done have to worry about WW dragon aoe damage

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you keep posting a link to a post that references another post that doesn’t actually state any camp that needs/requires or for which a shaman is a necessity?



Better is subjective and debatable. That is what you said. Verbatim. You then went on to explain that a cleric will struggle with aoe’s and enchanter pets being dispelled without acknowledging that the shaman will still have to heal everyone and juggle the clerical duties when subbed in the place of the cleric.

Needs, requires or is a necessity for is more concrete and would not be debatable if true.

C’mon man. You said it. Cough it up or just admit what we all already know is true. You told a little lie to advance your argument.

Ps: As a snarky side giggle, if you are going to advocate for having a pocket cleric maybe I could advocate for every caster having 3 full bags of 10 dose wort potions so they done have to worry about WW dragon aoe damage

It looks like you finally read the post! Progress!

I've healed WW dragon groups without a Cleric. There is no struggle there. The struggle comes when you have multiple enchanter pets getting charm dispelled.

In the case of a Cleric/Enchanter/Enchanter group, every aoe dispell completely stops tanking and DPS. The group has to try and control multiple pets and the dragon. I'd honestly love to see you post a video of this group killing a 6+ Dragon.

You could certainly advocate for the group spending lots of money on things like wort pots, reapers, puppet strings, etc. But it is easy to counter that this isn't very efficient if you are camping things for money. You'll probably spend more than you make.

I am also not sure why you keep claiming the word "better" is subjective. When you say 95/100 is better than 90/100 with regards to a score, is that subjective?

[Troxx]

Example of a correct use of the word need:

To tackle AoW a guild needs clerics on a tight complete heal rotation.

Another:

To not be one rounded by AoW you need to be a warrior and use defensive, because no … not just any class can survive it (even with infinite clerics healing for infinity)


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Example of an incorrect use of the word need:

DSM knows of any camps they need a shaman.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by pasi

did Entariz (7/6) on beta. Pretty easy fight w/ Kunark gear/spells.

Petted 1 gnome, banked 1 gnome, and a mammoth duder. No specific reason for mammoth over higher dps gnome other than I didn't expect to need a 3rd gnome and I did.

He's a paladin so ToT works wonders for you rune/bedlamming his AE.

Open with tash on Dargon -> zone to ToV. Now, you don't get the crazy initial tash aggro when slowing him.

Go get your pets set up with charm buried and standby pet full of trash debuffs/buffs.
Keep slowed, keep ToTing, keep bedlam/rune up on self. Have memory flux + boltrans ready to go for recharm + aggro dump.

If you have a wand or strings, it would be even easier since Boltrans is a ton of mana for a few seconds quicker cast time.

Conversely, you could probably just fight him (or any other dargon) in water to avoid the AE entirely. I wasn't that smart when I did it.

Just avoid dudes who chaos breath

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=280378

Why would I need to post a video of 2 chanters and a cleric and a 4th caster killing a target that can already be solo’d by one enchanter in kunark gear?

I’d acuse you of only knowing the ins and outs of shamans and shadowknights … but according to my sig there was a big thing you didn’t know about shadowknights …

It’s understandable if you don’t know how to play an enchanter.

I am also not sure why you keep claiming the word "better" is subjective. When you say 95/100 is better than 90/100 with regards to a score, is that subjective?

A person stating “Better” in circumstances that are matters of opinion and debatable …

… is subjective.

Is English a second language for you?


By the way, quit changing the subject. Name a camp that needs (requires) a shaman.

This is funny.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=280378

Why would I need to post a video of 2 chanters and a cleric and a 4th caster killing a target that can already be solo’d by one enchanter in kunark gear?

I’d acuse you of only knowing the ins and outs of shamans and shadowknights … but according to my sig there was a big thing you didn’t know about shadowknights …

It’s understandable if you don’t know how to play an enchanter.



A person stating “Better” in circumstances that are matters of opinion and debatable …

… is subjective.

Is English a second language for you?


By the way, quit changing the subject. Name a camp that needs (requires) a shaman.

This is funny.

Your examole of an Enchanter soloing a 6+ Dragon is from beta, and the guy saying using puppet strings makes things essier, which aren't practical to use after the recharge nerf. I'd love to see it on current P99.

As you can see, Troxx just continues to play word games because he cannot stay on topic and provide evidence as to why a Cleric is better in this group. He has admitted you don't need the cleric, so we need to compare how Shamans and Clerics work in different scenarios. He can't find a scenario where the Cleric would be better.