Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. The only person making assumptions about pocket classes are yourself. Please show me where OP said they weren't allowed.

If you are allowed to pocket whatever you want but don't have on the side what is the point of restricting this theoretical group to only 4 and only casters?

Look man, we get it. You want to be able to pocket a cleric because:

-Shamans can't complete heal
-Shamans can't buff the cleric/druid line of HP and don't have symbol
-Shamans can't stun charm breaks
-Shamans are not really effective blast healers

... and when shit hits the fan (and it will with nasty charm pets)

-Shaman's can't rez


You've just moved the goalposts again to make the entire scenario allow for your chosen class to fit into this class.

Quit being obtuse

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are allowed to pocket whatever you want but don't have on the side what is the point of restricting this theoretical group to only 4 and only casters?

Look man, we get it. You want to be able to pocket a cleric because:

-Shamans can't complete heal
-Shamans can't buff the cleric/druid line of HP and don't have symbol
-Shamans can't stun charm breaks
-Shamans are not really effective blast healers

... and when shit hits the fan (and it will with nasty charm pets)

-Shaman's can't rez


You've just moved the goalposts again to make the entire scenario allow for your chosen class to fit into this class.

Quit being obtuse

Here is Troxx continuing to show he doesn't know what pocket characters are. It's quite sad really. I never said you could pocket any class. The simple fact that Troxx thinks you can pocket any class shows he doesn't understand pocket characters at all. It's strange, because this has been a common practice for many years now.

He doesn't understand how Shamans work, and can't even name one camp that needs a Cleric, while I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Please stop trolling, and learn the game.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He doesn't understand how Shamans work...

I've got a 60 shaman. That shaman hit 60 years ago. I've solo'd ever piece of garbage you have and have done so without anything you might call "raid gear". EQ isn't hard. You're not special because you've soloed WW dragons or done small man Fungi groups in king. Many of us have done that also.

... because EQ isn't actually hard.

Only classes I haven't leveled to 60 are rog/sk/ench/wiz.

I'm not sure which project I'll take up next.

You only argue for allowing pocket clerics because YOU KNOW that without that allowance there is no reason ... whatsoever ... to EVER consider replacing a cleric with a shaman (as the sole healer) for this group.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... and can't even name one camp that needs a Cleric, while I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Name one.

Actually ... name every single camp out there you can think of that needs a shaman where 2x enchanter + cleric + literally any other caster would not be sufficient.

I swear to god if you name WW dragons I'm gonna laugh in your face. A necro or mage summon pet can tank a slowed WW dragon far better than a shaman ever could - and enchanters can still handle their pets getting charm dispelled periodically. Funny thing then is that a long ass shaman solo fight suddenly becomes 90-99% shorter in duration.

Nothing in this game NEEDS most classes.

I'll be impressed if you can name one single encounter in this game that is possible WITH a shaman but is impossible WITHOUT a shaman that could be done by 4 caster classes otherwise.

You threw down the gauntlet.

Ball is in your court.

[bcbrown]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Like what?

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can't even name one camp that needs a Cleric, while I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Still waiting.

Name one camp. Do it or just admit that you were lying so we can move on.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He doesn't understand how Shamans work, and can't even name one camp that needs a Cleric, while I can name multiple camps that need a Shaman.

Grab a thesaurus. When used as verbs need and require are synonyms.

Why do you keep trying to change the subject. You said the above quote. If you can name multiple camps surely you’ll have an easy time naming one.

Or is it top sekrit?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Troxx is mad with a double post.

He still can't explain what a pocket character is, even though this is common practice for many years.

He still doesn't know that Shamans can Torpor tank, because he never metions it when describing how shamans work.

He can't name a camp that needs a Cleric. I've named camps that are better with a Shaman compared to a Cleric multiple times, but he doesn't read.

He constantly asks other people for evidence, while never providing any of his own. It's sad. This is why he trolls, because he can't win an argument normally. He cannot admit when he is wrong.

[Troxx]

I'd rather double post than chain edit each post for the next 30 minutes.

We all know what pocket characters are. You just seem to think they are relevant here. You only keep talking about this because you acknowledge that the value of cheal, rez and all the other things clerics do are invaluable.

To steal a line from you:

Thank you for conceding the point that a cleric is actually better than shamans for this. I appreciate you conceding that you are wrong by trying to make "pocket clerics" a thing for this.

Tally ho!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We all know what pocket characters are.

If you know what a pocket character is, explain this:

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are allowed to pocket whatever you want but don't have on the side what is the point of restricting this theoretical group to only 4 and only casters?

Why do you keep insisting you can pocket any class? You need to explain what a pocket character is in your view.