Discussion: PvP Deaths (Item/Coin/XP Loot/Gain)

[Muaar]

PVP in oldworld EQ could be improved if caster classes couldnt cast spells without a magic item or something. But then the low levels would be ridiculous...

Naked mages are op but there's no easy way to make it so casters cant cast spells naked.

[Xareth]

Originally Posted by Yukahwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xareth I'm not a bluebie I'm just a rallos zek player that quit when they added augments and there was no incentive for me to try to kill players.

Don't be weak sauce and call people bluebies whenever you don't agree with them.

For me, killing players trying to get EXP isn't very satisfying. At least it doesn't prove im a really great player or anything. Its still sort of fun. Its a lot more fun when there is an actual reward in it for me..and even more fun when every time I attack someone I am placing a bet (my own gear) on myself winning that fight.

When I'm not wagering my own gear against the gear I might win, there is no excitement.

Please don't make me point out how contradictory this post is to your previous one.

That being said, there is no reward needed to pvp more than whines and cries, winning, and killing.

That is all. That's what you don't get. Item loot is just the cherry on top for true non-blues.

[Kelsar]

wait wait! I got it bros.
No boxing, No Lore, 1-Item Loot, No Primary & Secondary character loots (spare the melee clause of 1999), No banks, No Cheating, PLAY BALL!

[Disciple90]

after reading these replies, i can understand both arguments. My opinion would be to allow coin loot and no xp remove on death, unless its limited or reduced to almost nothing when killed by the same player again and again in a short time frame. Coin loot would encourage players to make frequent visits to the bank :P

[Crenshinabon]

Originally Posted by Disciple90 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

limited or reduced to almost nothing when killed by the same player again and again in a short time frame.

This sounds like a good solution.

[juicedsixfo]

Originally Posted by mitic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ok then, facts:

.) population on vztz increased by 100% the moment item loot was taken out
.) meles in classic are useless without gear vs. casters who can run around nakid and still do full dmg
.) once lvl 46+ is reached u wont care about itemloot anymore
.) good items need to be camped for hours to get a drop while u can lose them pretty fast in just one short lagspike

I don't care much about the first fact, but 2 and 4 are why item loot is unbalanced. I agree. Until spells are drops that can be looted and taken from your arsenal, it's just crooked as fuck.

[juicedsixfo]

Could you imagine finally getting your new main DD after days of camping a rare spawn, only to have it jacked? I have a very good feeling that anyone that's advocating for item loot intends on playing a caster.

[Crenshinabon]

pro item loot paladin right here baby

[Silikten]

Item loot is a very bad idea. It should only be coin loot.

[Muaar]

pod should turn people item loot active on this server

then those who wish to item loot can have fun raging each other without harming the poor carebears